A First Timer Shares His Experience (Review of Independent Sarah)

[cflb56]

So....as chronicled in this thread...

http://www.massageplanet.net.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=200946

...I had been giving the whole MPA thing thought as a means to perhaps cut down on my, dare I say compulsive, fucking around at every opportunity. My thinking is at those times I get an itch that my GF isn't available to scratch, this would make a good substitute.

Well, I hadn't thought of yesterday as the definitive start date for all this, but a combination of events topped off with my GF having a family emergency and having to bail on our plans lead me to feel like I deserved a reward for having endured what had been a fairly crappy day.

Based on the counsel provided in the above references thread, I made a call to "Chang's" even though I spent much of the day trying to access their apparently dead web page. I asked feedback regarding the availability of "Shirley", ended up speaking to "Shirley", was told the time I suggested was not available, and had my request for available times answered with a suggestion that I just call tomorrow.

Ok.

I then called "Independent Sarah" based on the other recommendation. Reached her on the first try, had a brief conversation (lovely accent), and then she promised to call me right back with her actual address, which she did (I am guessing this is standard protocol??).

I arrived at the provided address at the appointed hour (it is always interesting to see what other people think of as "downtown" - I wouldn't call her neighborhood "downtown", but I suppose that if you live in Burlington or Oshawa it might be...like her website says, it is very accessible by TTC, and it is NOT walking distance from the "downtown" hotels, which is essentially where I live) and was a wee bit put off...it wasn't what I was expecting, but hell, I KNEW this wasn't going to be like going to the Spa at the Four Seasons, so I got over myself (Note: To be fair, I am NOT saying anything was necessarily WRONG...hell, if you are a regular at this sort of thing you have probably seen it all...just that I am not and had not).

I went downstairs as directed, again found myself needing to push past my own uptight preconceived notions, and knocked on the door. I was greeted by a quite short, quite petite, and...at that moment...rather plain looking woman in a T-shirt and blue jeans.

Be cool MLAM...be cool...ride this out...its only $150 if it goes badly...and she comes highly recommended.

I step into a room that I would describe as reflecting someone best efforts to make the best silk purse out of a sows ear that they could, remove my clothes (I was not offered a shower, and when I did visit the WC, there was none) and decided to speak up about the one thing I will say is something you gentle readers should know.

The room was warm. Not hot...but it was warm. As in not air conditioned. Now...I am a big guy...a big, sweaty guy. But even when I was at my most fit, I still sweated like a pig (interestingly enough, so does my personal trainer...who is pretty damn fit, being a body builder and all...we joke about it all the time). So....I was sweating, and not feeling real good about things so far (Be cool MLAM....Be cool...). I would NOT have wanted to be there on a warmer day. That said, my request for a fan and a towel were both responded to quickly and cheerfully, and once both the fan was going and the sun went down, everything was more than fine. In summary, this issue would not keep me from returning, but I wouldn't ever go before sundown, or on a particularly hot day. You probably are not quite the big sweaty man I am, so maybe it would not be an issue for you.

When Sarah returned, she was dressed in some nice lingerie and did in fact look more like the gal in her website pictures (she would later explain that she didn't expect me so quickly...that everyone is always late, so my being precisely on time was a surprise). I am quite pleasantly surprised that while quite petite, she is not "bony"...it would appear that her claim of being a "fit" person in her ad is accurate. She isn't muscular at all (so if that is a concern, do not be)...I would describe her as looking more like a bikini model, sans big fake tits (yeah...the tits...small and absolutely natural...in case that is relevant to you).

From there Sarah proceeded with a "massage"...of sorts (no, I guess you don't go see an MPA for a massage do you? LOL), and then things got...awkward. Let me try to explain..

See...this is the first time I had done anything like this..so I did not know what to expect, really. And...somewhat to my surprise, Sarah neither asked what I wanted at the beginning of the session (not even how long a session I wanted) nor did she offer a tutorial. So...I was a bit clueless. I am sure the poor girl was like "wtf is the deal with this guy", and probably more than once thought I was LE...lol.

Sarah proceeded with the massage, doing things that I suspect were supposed to be clues for me to take some action of my own (like...undressing...lol)...and then finally she just flat out asked me "isn't there something you want to show me?"

Ummm...ahh...yeah...I suppose that is why I am here...lol. Except we were clearly on a path different than what I had been expecting...or...to be honest...wanting. There hadn't been NEARLY as much relaxing, or sensuous touch as I would have liked, and if we were going to be proceeding to "the finish" so quickly, well...I am not sure exactly how she planned to keep stroking for 30 minutes, because for $150 I wasn't going to blow my nut until then damn it, but she is a professional and presumably experienced at her craft, so...

That isn't what happened...but then...you knew that, didn't you?

What did happen was a series of things that you sure as fuck can't get at the Four Season Spa, and that I actually was neither expecting nor wanting, but I am a heterosexual male, and at the time I was one with a now hard dick, so no complaints were issued by me. I tried to follow her lead...and again, I am sure more than once she thought to herself "what is the deal with this guy??", but finally at some point I decided to seize what seemed like a very obvious opportunity to "return the favor" that was being performed. I honestly don't know if that was on the menu or not...she made a remark about me being a "bad boy"...which she then followed with a comment about her being a "bad girl" for making it possible for it to happen, but she sure as hell didn't stop me or issue complainants of her own.

30 minutes later, the deed was done. Sarah remained quite pleasant and polite, offered a towel, etc.

In summary, a very nice gal, quite attractive, and probably quite friendly (I wasn't doing much talking, which probably didn't help things at all). I certainly cannot say that I did not have a good time...I did. And I think I can say that for those of you who are more experienced at this, and ARE wanting the things that are apparently available in this aspect of the hobby, you will be pleased.

I can now see what you guys get out of it, and why you do it...because up until then, I just didn't understand how the fuck a $200 hand job made any sense. I am a bit more clear now.

Will I go back? Sigh....I could see how if you became a regular and developed a rapport this sort of thing could be a AWFUL lot of fun...and I could also see how it can be as addicting as some of you say it is.

No I am not prepared to swear I will never be back. Shit...now that I know what is available and now also know where I can get it...no, I cannot swear that there will never be a drunken, lonely, horny night during which I will not make the trip. While my frame of reference is VERY limited, I would say that Sarah does what she does well, and I recommend her for those of you who want that.

But it isn't what I wanted. I didn't have buyers remorse...but I was less satisfied than I had hoped to be...if that somehow makes sense.

Please note this is NOT a "bad review"...nothing "bad" took place at all. I had a quite good time.

Just not the time I was looking for.

Is Chang's website working yet??

 

[Aunty Joyce]

Thanks.......I enjoyed the read. The whole thing.

An addiction can start very easily....however, a "drunken, lonely, horny night" is something I'm sure all of us want to avoid!

Everything except the drunken part....

 

[Villain]

Good review MLAM

Too bad it didn't work out for you with Changs, I noted in a previous thread that one of the other ladies there is only working three days a week now instead of everyday, so Shirley must be really busy handling the increased workload. I noticed the website has been down for a few weeks now but you can still access it through Google's cache. Just do a search on Google and click on cached at the bottom.

 

[ariel]

Thanks for the review MLAM. So often people come here to ask for advise/information, and then they disappear with no feedback or review.

I may have seen this lady a few years ago as the location mentioned in another thread rings a bell. Your description of location sounds familiar too.

MLAM did you check out Nikki? http://www.massageplanet.net.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=2201189#post2201189

Its been awhile since I have been reading in the massage section. I realize people want to be discrete and so a code is often used. Anyone care to spell out in PM explicitly what is available with Sarah? Much appreciated.

 

[Merry]

can u pm me what did happen? i am new to this also. so its a good heads up to know what to expect right?

thanks

 

[Pompal 09.]

MLAM - you have nearly 4,000 posts - How did you not know what to expect?

Sarah has a shower at her place. I hope you asked to use it, its the first thing I always ask for.

 

[Gabby]

I think it may have been a little different then he asked for. That was the variance from expectations.

From what I have read on sarah, she uses a finsih, which is not traditional amongst most MPA's, at least non at certain spas. And that was not what he was looking for, if I read correctly.

 

[Shawn M]

He always could have said NO to her finishing style, not that I would she is good at it.

If the drive to and from her place were not a total pain in the ass I would have repeated with her by now.

 

[Natie]

Saras massage is quite different then Shirley at Changs but I have to say that if you are looking for a beautiful next door girl type she is perfect. She is real, does not act phony and is a joy to be with. Perhaps there is a little shyness the first time so definitley the repeat visits get better and better . I have been seeing this girl for a long time and I love her. The best part of the visit is the innocent next door type is quite naughty behind closed doors

 

[Old Folkie]

I wouldn't say no either

 

[brad pitts brother]

No AC and no shower? Are you sure she didn't have a shower in another bathroom? Unfortunately that would be a deal breaker for me.

 

[Pompal 09.]

She has a shower. Just ask. It is in the next room.

 

[c_marie]

...perhaps because not being a previous MPA fan I never really concerned myself with the reviews?

Perhaps because the reviews are intentionally less than explicit?

Perhaps because since I had never had this experience before, I didn't know the secret code reviews are written in?

Does that answer your question, or do you wish to further insist that I simply MUST have expected something I never have experienced in this scenario before, is not mentioned ANYWHERE on this message board (by design), was not mentioned in her ad, and was not told was forthcoming?

And no, I didn't ask to use the shower because having one in my condo, I was freshly showered less than 20 minutes beforehand. If SHE had wanted me to use it, I am sure she would have pointed its existence out.

Anything else you have a question about?

 

[AdministrationTeam]

...and so what is your point, exactly?

Can you not read?

Did you not see where I said I had no complaints??

 

[sgoldperson]

I can read. My comment was about your lack of expectations from her. When I think about seeing someone new I try to find out what I can before I go. I try to reduce the risk of a poor experience. Mind you even with some well done research I have had some less than stellar sessions within the past week or two. The outcome shocked me - and not in a good way.

My only complaint is her location. Total pain to get to. With all the road work in the area it makes it even worse.

 

[Jacob B]

I had a lukewarm visit with Sarah as well which I've documented in a previous post.

She doesn't take charge, doesn't strike up a "break the ice" conversation and had virtually no sensuality when I visited her. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who's had this experience with her. Her massage technique is good but there was very little teasing. However the finish is above average, she has skills there.

I found her plain looking, too shy, wasn't overly thrilled with the apartment so I won't repeat.

 

[Naughty Baby]

MLAM: Please clear out your PM's. Your box is full!!!

 

[Killer]

Hi, I can understand how someone could be a little mislead by the service I provide as I really dont hint at anything In my add, on the phone or in person, this is simply because of legality issues and I have to agree that I am not really downtown, but I dont really want to say midtown either. I have very few new client as I am usually busy with regulars, so I admittedly could work on my "new client skills". I also should have asked how long you would have liked, my wrists/arms were bothering me so I just assumed a 1/2hr, but the cost is $130 for that so I apologize as I didnt count your funds.

I felt bad when you came in and I realized that the room was warmish, as this could have been avoided, it wasnt even hot outside.

I should really start asking what type of massage is perfered (as in a firmer touch or more sensual), heck sometimes Im sure I could save myself some muscle work. However I will never discuss any sort of menu, so there will always have to be some element of surprise. And guys dont go PMing MLAM or or myself as too exacty what kind of treatment he got because YES I was a little more liberal than I might be with you so....Anyway. I really apreciate your review.

Over the years Ive changed my services a bit, I used to provide less for less, with some discussion on the type of service, I then provided less and more for varied rates with discussion, I know provide more service for more $ with no discussion of services provided, which can obviously lead to some surprise but I feel its the best way for me. If you visit and would like a little different service you can say so. Heck from what I ve noticed lately I problaby do provide a little more in my sessions that others for the price, most certainly at $190 for 1hr. (Yes I know you can still get more for less for all you massage bargain hunters), but in general MPA service you cannot.

I am glad that you did not have a bad time, as you were expecting a little different.

 

[Ewas]

Oh MLAM, I just read your first post on the type of service that you were idealy looking for in an massage provider, It can be provided, now that you are a "safe" client for me I would have no problem with changing things up/ requests on techniqe are no problem, I can cater to such simple desires when I know what someone likes. Maybe Nikki2 would be someone else to try, but no matter who you see let them know that youd like a more sensual touch If thats what you want. If you are not going for a big upsell package, give the girl a tip of $20-40 before you start. But only do this if she is reputable.

 

[Sarah K]

...PM away.