Did you read this: Prostitutes Turn to Craigslist, Law Takes Notice

[Collette J]

I and others often start topics on Craig's list on the Tijuana fourm, because Tijuana hookers are now getting into the internet busness and it's only going to grow in the future. Many of us who do hookers in TJ, also do hookers in the states, so questions regarding the law come up and how not to get busted. We also have our own sex internet people like Samspon and NOB who are actually in the business of bringing hookers to the masses via internet if your willing to pay a little more, as they promise GFE sex, DFK, DATY, BBBJs and even multiple pops for one hour, if your willing to pay $150 dollars. Sadly, Craig's list took aim at Sampson and NOB when they advertised their girls in the San Diego section of escort services, and now flag the posts and bring them down every time. We also have Burt, who is a very strong suporter and customer of escorts in Tijuana, so the topic of Craig's list is very interesting to most of us here, but I guess not everyone.

I often wonder myself how Craig's list gets away with allowing prostitutes to sell their services on the internet, you would think the conservative goverment we have would find a way to stop them, as it's so open?

 

[Kitty L]

Cause it is the New York Times, that's why

Only reason I see this being printed Because NEW YORK TIMES is having a slow day this isn't new news,Just because its in the New york times.

because it is a very intresting notion that your LE is starting to focus on internet offerings (like Craig's List, you follow?),

Vice police in most citys been doing this since {I am going out on a limb here}the late 90's to Eros,Extoic-usa,and all the other one's I didnt name. [I hope you are following?]

meaning one of this days it will jump the line and become FBI matter on a regular basis.

I doubt that it come to fbi matter on a regular basic.{Where did you get the FBI out of this?}

 

[Sotology]

Cause it is the New York Times, that's why and because it is a very intresting notion that your LE is starting to focus on internet offerings (like Craig's List, you follow?), meaning one of this days it will jump the line and become FBI matter on a regular basis.

 

[PiggyDog]

So I guess it is pertinent to post it, so others can be aware of what's happening.

Yes it is pertinent to post informent like this so other can know,but why something that happen in NY. If you going to post something like this retread or bring up old topics, that in San Diego or LA.{like fox6 and SD vice major craiglist bust from http://www.fox6.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=29D50DB7-CC1C-492A-944D-0C78ED845C00&gsa=true

http://www.fox6.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=8E7A94AD-AE74-4AB6-9DD1-9D4BD36B1D47&gsa=true

One story from a year ago and the other was in may. {NY} I guess some police depterments are that stupid if it took them this long to figured this out.

 

[2DIGNI5]

I guess you should address that question to Fireballs, who knows the researcher that looked into the TJ hookers and to the other posters that started the pimp threads and similars.

And by all means, if you don't like the topics that are posted here, please skip them and go straight to TJ and have fun.

 

[CrAzYcHiC123]

There are too many "sorry" people in the world, ho's are about being happy and having fun! I do appreciate your response. If am going to TJ ( or even talking about it) Craigs list would be pretty low on the topic list... However, may I ask; for example how do topics like "pimps" or info ( interesting from an anthropology, or social worker view point) affect my enjoyment of the chicks in TJ ? For once Amigo: directly answer! In other words what does it matter and who cares... I want to know do you support and encourage free acess to the bitches for all or not? There is only one rule in the World: NO SNIVELING... if you can keep that rule I will be OK!

 

[drip]

Am sorry to tell, but since you are new around, Craigs list has been a topic here, specially on the Tijuana thread: Tijuana Internet Escorts

http://www.worldsexguide.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15604&highlight=craig

Mongers on the TJ forum have talked about it and I believe they have considered using it for services and asked for advice here and many just use it as a reference for their posts.

So I guess it is pertinent to post it, so others can be aware of what's happening.

 

[HannahSaysHii<3]

what does this have to do with Tijuana? Lets stay on topic- here?

 

[Some One]

As Prostitutes Turn to Craigslist, Law Takes Notice

By BRUCE LAMBERT
Published: September 5, 2007
GARDEN CITY, N.Y., Sept. 4 — The eight women visited Long Island this summer along with vacationing families and other business travelers, staying in hotels and motels in commercial strips in middle-class suburbs like East Garden City, Hicksville and Woodbury. Their ages ranged from 20 to 32.

Three had come all the way from the San Francisco Bay area, one from Miami. Two lived less than 60 miles away, in Newark and Elizabeth, N.J. and two even closer, in Brooklyn.

All eight were arrested on prostitution charges here, snared in a new sting operation by the Nassau County police that focuses on Craigslist.org, the ubiquitous Web site best known for its employment and for-sale advertisements but which law enforcement officials say is increasingly also used to trade sex for money.

Nassau County has made more than 70 arrests since it began focusing on Craigslist last year, one of numerous crackdowns by vice squads from Hawaii to New Hampshire that have lately been monitoring the Web site closely, sometimes placing decoy ads to catch would-be customers.

“Craigslist has become the high-tech 42nd Street, where much of the solicitation takes place now,” said Richard McGuire, Nassau’s assistant chief of detectives. “Technology has worked its way into every profession, including the oldest.”

Augmenting traditional surveillance of street walkers, massage parlors, brothels and escort services, investigators are now hunching over computer screens to scroll through provocative cyber-ads in search of solicitors.

In July raids, the sheriff of Cook County, Ill., rounded up 43 women working on the streets — and 60 who advertised on Craigslist. In Seattle, a covert police ad on Craigslist in November resulted in the arrests of 71 men, including a bank officer, a construction worker and a surgeon.

And in Jacksonville, Fla., a single ad the police posted for three days in August netted 33 men, among them a teacher and a firefighter. “We got hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of hits” in phone calls and e-mail messages, said John P. Hartley, the assistant chief sheriff there.

Sex and the Internet have been intertwined almost since the first Web site, but the authorities say that prostitution is flourishing online as never before. And while prostitutes also advertise on other sites, the police here and across the country say Craigslist is by far the favorite. On one recent day, for example, some 9,000 listings were added to the site’s “Erotic Services” category in the New York region alone: Most offered massage and escorts, often hinting at more.

Law enforcement officials have accused Craigslist of enabling prostitution. But the company’s president, Jim Buckmaster, said its 24-member staff cannot patrol the multitude of constantly changing listings — some 20 million per month — and counts on viewers to flag objectionable ads, which are promptly removed.

“We do not want illegal activity on the site,” he said. Asked whether the company supported the police’s placing decoy ads on Craigslist, Mr. Buckmaster said: “We don’t comment on the specifics” of law enforcement.

Craig Newmark, the site’s founder and chairman, deferred all questions to Mr. Buckmaster.

The police have also occasionally turned to Craigslist to trace stolen goods offered for sale or make drug arrests. In June, in Nassau, spotting code words like “snow” or “skiing” to refer to cocaine, they set up a sting with an undercover officer to arrest a man who advertised cocaine for sex.

Experts say that under the federal Communications Decency Act of 1996, the ads are legal and Web site owners are exempt from responsibility for content posted by users. Craigslist, for example, last fall won dismissal of a suit that alleged housing discrimination in ads posted on its Web site. “You hold the speaker liable, not the soapbox,” explained Kurt B. Opsahl, senior staff attorney for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a digital civil liberties group based in San Francisco.

While Mr. Buckmaster said Craigslist was no different from old-media publications that have long carried sex-oriented ads, law enforcement officials say its scope and format are especially useful to the sex industry. With listings for some 450 cities around the world, Craigslist claims to have 25 million users and 8 billion page views a month. Posting advertisements, except those in the employment and some housing categories, is free, as is responding to them by e-mail.

“The Internet has allowed people to make contact in a way not possible before,” said Ronald Weitzer, a sociology professor at George Washington University and a researcher on prostitution. “Ten years ago this was not happening at all.”

As Nassau’s district attorney, Kathleen Rice, said of Craigslist: “It’s as easy as it gets.”
Tracy Quan, a member of the advocacy group Prostitutes of New York and author of the autobiographical novel “Diary of a Married Call Girl” (Harper Perennial, 2006), acknowledged that “the Internet became a virtual street for people in the sex industry,” but said that “the police are as inventive and as wily as sex workers are.” She said that the stings amounted to entrapment of consenting adults, and that “it seems like an enormous waste of time resources by authoritarian busybodies.”

The police say that Craigslist has changed prostitution’s patterns, with people roaming the country, setting up shop for a week or two in hotels — often near airports — where they use laptop computers and cellphones to arrange encounters for hundreds of dollars, then moving on to their next location.

“They like to move around, that’s for sure,” said Assistant Chief McGuire. “They’re flying in from out of state because there is money here” on Long Island.

In Westchester County this spring, the police in Greenburgh, Rye, Rye Brook and Elmsford formed a joint task force to investigate ads on Craigslist, resulting in 30 arrests. Some of those arrested were out-of-town prostitutes who booked numerous dates in advance, then whisked in for a busy couple of days, the police said.

In Sandpoint, Idaho, population 8,105, R. Mark Lockwood, the police chief, said that an arrest this summer involving Craigslist “was probably our first prostitution case since World War II.”

Amid the police crackdown, in a game of electronic cat-and-mouse, the authorities say that Web site users who get wind of enforcement sometimes post warnings to thwart investigators.

The Craigslist modus operandi provides mobility, helping prostitutes keep a few steps ahead of the law, law enforcement officials say. It also affords a degree of anonymity — if they are caught, being away from home makes an arrest less embarrassing.

Pimps have also adapted to the computer age, the police say. Among those arrested here in August, on charges of promoting prostitution, was Victor Teixeira, 31, of Mineola. “He was managing the technology of it,” said Assistant Chief McGuire. “He recruited the women on the Internet. He put different ads up sometimes three times day. He would screen the calls and make the appointments.”

Mr. Teixeira pleaded not guilty; he could not be reached for comment.

Most of the arrests are on misdemeanor charges, with convictions resulting in fines of a few hundred dollars; only repeat offenders risk jail time. The real penalties are the disruption of business, the cost of lawyers and the seizures of computers and cash — as much as several thousand dollars at a time. The police say the focus on such misconduct is worthwhile because prostitution is often linked to other crimes involving drugs, weapons, physical abuse and exploitation of minors and immigrants.

Law enforcement officials ask why Craigslist even includes Erotic Services among its 191 categories. Mr. Buckmaster, the company president, said the site created that category “at the request of our users” for legitimate massage, escorts and exotic dancers. In an e-mail interview, he said that the police had praised the company’s cooperation, though he did not give examples.

Despite police complaints that Craigslist facilitates prostitution, some experts say the Web site also aids enforcement.

“Craigslist is a very open site, and it leaves digital footprints,” said Leslie A. Harris, president of the nonprofit Center for Democracy and Technology. “It makes it easier for the police.”