First tel. call from male wanting a "bit extra"!

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I had a telephone call from a "gentleman" this evening wanting more information on IHM. When I asked what he would like to know, he asked if I offered "any other types of massage" No, just IHM and reflexology. "So you don't offer any other body massage?" No, like I said, just IHM and reflexology, and I gave a brief description of IHM. He didn't stay on the phone long......

Am I a bit naive? I can understand this kind of enquiry with body massage, but wasn't expecting it in reply to a IHM advert. I think my advert is quite clear on what I offer and the benefits (helps with anxiety, stress, insomnia, sinusitis. No reference to stress relief.....)

My husband is now a bit worried that if this is the type of call you get, that I will get nuisance calls, text messages, etc. I have accepted a male client for IHM, bu I think I sensed straight away that this call wasn't right, and believe that they go with the territory and that you need to politely and firmly explain what you DO offer!

Has anyone else advertising non full body massage had this type of enquiry, and if so, is it a frequent occurrence? Any tips on dealing with these calls, or avoiding them in the first place?!

Thanks!
 
It is nearly impossible to avoid these calls ... get a group of therapists together and I'm sure that before long everyone starts comparing notes on dodgy calls.

Most people just try it on to try and find someone to satisfy them, once you clearly state your position you don't hear from them again. Warning signs are witheld numbers, and an urgency to the appointment is often a clue - if they can't wait a day or two for an appointment then that can set of alarm bells. I get these quite regularly now, never really bothered by them - just state the case and move on to the next real client. The first few can be a bit un-nerving I know.

The only thing I would ask is that you don't tarnish all male clients with the same brush. Be careful, be aware but remember this is a tiny percentage of men and why run the risk of cutting your potential client base in half.

Mat xx
 
Hi ya Sparkie

As a male massage/bodywork practitioner who talks often to my female colleagues about such matters, I would say be careful but don't be put off by the occasional pervert. They are the minority! Unfortunately some men can't tell the difference between therapeuticmassage and prostitution. This is partly a cultural problem. I also think that some men get confused between sensuality and sexuality, another cultural problem.

Go with your intuition and recommendations from people you know. I feel that the more complementary therapies get recognised, the more situations like you mentioned won't occur so much.

Best Wishes

Dave the Reiki Pixie

P.S. In 10 years of practice I have had 2 dodgey phone calls from men. It not just female practitioners perverts ring! It just life and we have to deal with it. I had a mad person chasingafter me the last week on a tricycle and I had to call the police. After I calmed down, I just got onwith the day.Looking back in hindsight it was quite funny.

P.P.S. Thinking about it, a crazy womenin aTai Chi class I was teaching a few years ago behind my back was accusing me of "heavy breathing and lude language"on the phone to her. My other students (all women) were so concerned they had to tell me, as they know me as a man of integrity. Luckily she never came back and I didn't have to chuck herout as a trouble maker.Not so funny, situations like that can ruin careers!
 
I receive quite a few calls like this and when I first started advertising upto 4/5 per week! However, you do soon tell which are genuine enquiries by asking a few questions and also as someone else mentioned, these callers usually want an appointment straight away and only have a mobile number.


Ellie x
 
Hi ya Darren

She wasn't quite all there (a sandwich short of a picnic or if you are scientific, a electron short of a full outer shell). I found out later she had been disruptive in other classes at the same centre. I don't think it was to do with me. I never had that problem before or after. Contri to popular new age thinking,LIFE isn't always fluffy bunny with angelic vibrations looking after us, nevertheless I enjoy every moment of it. (That's a joke about angels, please no comments, don't send send me to hell for not being a non-believer).

Cheers

Dave
 
hiya,

we have another active thread regarding this at the moment,
think its called massage wording, check it out as we are discussing the same problem.
 
Thanks Daisychain for the link in massage. I have had a read and it seems to be quite a common problem. There were some good tips there on wording on posters and websites. I will recheck mine, but didn't think there was anything misleading..............

Thank you to everyone else for their input too. Some good advice!

To Dave, I'm sure I shouldn't have, but I did have a giggle as I pictured you running down a road with a tricyle in hot pursuit!

Best wishes
 
[sm=wave.gif]Hi, here's the direct link to that thread

[link=http://www.healthypages.net/forum/tm.asp?m=462813&mpage=1&key=&#462813]http://www.healthypages.net/forum/tm.asp?m=462813&mpage=1&key=&#462813[/link]
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Amy
xx
 
Hi, i a reflexologist and i also do indian head massage and am mobile.
I had a call from a male inqiring then he boked me, it was nerve racking as you are always thinking about safty and my husband worries about me.
I have my second male client in a couple of weeks, i have not had any funny calls, but i do find male clients nerve racking but i think with experence i will get better at handerling them.
 
I wonder if it would be a good idea to say up front when they book that no other services are offered. If they are a genuinely interested client, then they would understand. You could even say that you have to mention this as some potential clients have asked in the past.
 
This sounds like a sensible idea! I may be tempted to clarify this in a polite and non offensive way in future.

Also, to avoid any misinterpretation on arrival, I would pay particular attention to appearance (as you do anyway, but even more important with males), ie. uniform with not a lot of chest area on show, membership badge, hair tied back, very little make up. Try not to be over-familiar etc. Also,someone know where I am and expect my call or text afterwards.

Having said this, I only did my first male client this morning! I did all these things, and also had a panic alarm close to hand in my bag. When I turned up, he was in a dressing gown! Rather loose and short too!I said I assumed he had some shorts underneath and he said no! I politely suggested he would be best attired in some shorts or trousers. He asked if pants were ok, and Iinsisted on shorts or trousers.He did oblige (phew!). I remained, calm, polite, in control, and left no room for misinterpretation.

I was rather unnerved and would have been prepared to leave, but it went brilliantly, he wanted the IHM for all the right reasons, and I'm glad I did it.
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ(647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ(416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Yoyo ๐Ÿ˜is beautiful tall sexy student. She has nice bum and very good massage and has great playful service. Such a beautiful sexy smile. She knows how too please you with her slim sexy body and bring joy and happiness๐Ÿ˜Real pictures of Y
  30. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ KAJAL, CAMILLA, SARIKA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  31. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 7 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ NINSH, MALIYA, AMANDA, MIMI, ANAYA, KIRAN, SARIKA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  32. MoonM203:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 20ys small Indian girl &Malaysia girl young good looking good sevice in today
  33. KSpa:
    FRIDAY at ๐Š ๐’๐๐€: HELEN, SUKI & CINDY. Unit B6-4227 Sheppard Ave East Scarborough, ON (Just East of Midland Ave) โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HELEN is a pretty Chinese babe, 24, 5โ€™3โ€ & 115 Lbs, can provide good services. SUKI is 23, 5โ€™2โ€ & 100 Lbs, 34C with a slim & sweet sexy body. CINDY is slim & pretty with a 5โ€™3โ€ sexy body, big boobs 34D, and a nice curvy bum. Cindy can relax all your cares
  34. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHERRY, MIA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. MIA is a young & slim A Cup ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & VERY PETITE Vietnamese beauty, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, who is open to anything.
  35. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Mia ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Sonia,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  36. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cici , Young girl pretty face big boobs nice figure deep massage Jessica ,Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary . ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard Ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  37. SunriseRH:
    FRIDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: JUDY & SUMMER. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ JUDY is a young & attractive Chinese girL, lwho knows exactly how to please a man. SUMMER is an incredibly sweet Asian babe, 5โ€™3โ€ with a captivating 36D-28-39 figure, weighing 108 pounds. Summer has very good massage & services.
  38. NewOriental:
    FRIDAY at ๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’š๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ: HAPPY, LULU & PHOENIX. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. LULU is a friendly and very sexy Vietnamese girl with natural B Cups, and a slim to medium frame. She is a lot of fun, and can be wild at times.
  39. ASPA:
    ๐—™๐—ฅ๐—œ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: ๐—”๐—บ๐˜† & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ AMY is young and very friendly, standing 158 Cms. with 34C Cups and a very nice bum. Amy is a very popular student, young, sexy, and open minded. She is in demand for her good massage
  40. Dreaminn:
    FRIDAY at ๐Ÿ’ญ๐——๐—ฅ๐—˜๐—”๐—  ๐—œ๐—ก๐—ก ๐—ช๐—˜๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ฆ๐—ฆ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐Ÿ’ญ: CANDY, LULU & TINA. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ โ˜Ž๏ธ *New Girl Today: CANDY is an attractive Chinese girl, mid 20โ€™s, 167Cms & 110 Lbs with D Cups and very versatile menu. LULU is a very popular & well known Chinese attendant, slim and beautiful with 34C Cups, long sexy legs, and incredible services.
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธCindy, Lina & New Girl Maya Cindy is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit. Her services are among the best! Lina is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did.
  42. Lulu1980:
    Good morning guys, Phoenix Blossom Spaโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธTable shower body scrub๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘3 girls every day, new girl Emily sexy beauty super service, body slide, professional Thai massage technique๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ Mia sexy body very good body slide.Cici super deep tissue massage๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366
  43. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young pretty Sally 30โ€™s and young fun Ivy 30โ€™s with big buttocks , pretty GFE Lina and young sweet Tina with curves body open mind are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Mia, Nana & Sasa. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves & very friendly attitude. She is able to bbbj like a queen
  45. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ NINSH, MALIYA, SANA, AMANDA, MIMI, ANAYA, KIRAN, SARIKA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  46. vrporn1007lover:
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  47. Flowers Spa:
    โ”†B l u e X a d o S p aโ”† 416 357 9797 โœฐ ๐Ÿท๐Ÿท๐Ÿถ๐Ÿธ ๐™ฒ๐šŽ๐š—๐š๐š›๐šŽ ๐š‚๐š , ๐š„๐š—๐š’๐š #๐Ÿผ , ๐šƒ๐š‘๐š˜๐š›๐š—๐š‘๐š’๐š•๐š•. Candy | Mimi (New) 19Yrs Vietnamese beautiful face, friendly...Must See...Monica (New) Colombian Thailand, beautiful & shapely...Excellent Service....After 9PM Hanna from Vietnam pretty, medium body, also does lighter treatment with emphasis on service... โ”†B l u e X a d o S p aโ”†416 357 9797 โœฐ ๐Ÿท๐Ÿท๐Ÿถ๐Ÿธ ๐™ฒ๐šŽ๐š—๐š๐š›๐šŽ ๐š‚๐š , ๐š„๐š—๐š’๐š #๐Ÿผ , ๐šƒ๐š‘๐š˜๐š›๐š—๐š‘๐š’๐š•๐š•.
  48. Lulu1980:
    Good morning guys, Phoenix Blossom Spaโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธTable shower body scrub๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘3 girls every day, new girl Vicky sexy beauty super service, body slide, professional Thai massage technique๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ Cici super deep tissue massage๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366
  49. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Young Sexy Curvy Latina Karen, Young Sexy Slim Chinese Emma, Young Slim Thai Janice, Young Sexy CBC Rachel. Slim Sexy Chinese Kiki, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Young Sexy Chinese Abie.
  50. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ LUCY, MALIYA, NISHA, AMANDA, ANAYA, MAY, SANA, ANGEL ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
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