Question First timer seeking advice

[Scholastica]

Hi gents, I'm new to the spa world and I've been doing a lot of research for the past few days. I still have some questions and I'm hoping someone would be willing to help clarify.

1. If I visit a semi-legit place let's say, do I need to do anything in particular proactively (flirting, touching, straight up asking) to let them know that I'm there for extras? Or can I literally just shut up and the girl will bring up the topic of extras at some point? To give more context I'm in my mid 20s, not ugly and have a fit body, I'm also a working professional and a very proper/polite person. I hope I don't come off like I'm bragging but all that is to say I don't look like someone who goes to massage parlours to get HEs, I'm afraid they'll just give me a legit massage thinking that's all I wanted.

2. Related to 1 but I know girls will do some "teasing" pre-flip. So how do they know whether I want extras (therefore I should be teased) or I only want legit massage before the flip? (My understanding is the specific extras you get is only confirmed after the flip)

3. If you walk-in without making an appointment, how does the "girl picking" process go? Would they show you pictures or have them line up in front of you for you to pick? The latter sounds very awkward to me lol.

4. When you go into the massage room, what are you supposed to do exactly? I think you're supposed to strip naked, shower, then lie on the bed face down, all while the girl is outside the room? Are you supposed to cover your ass up with the towel? (I've heard covered = asking for legit massage and not covered = asking for extras). I've also heard stories that seem to deviate from this script where the girl hop in the shower with them and stuff so idk how I'm supposed to know what to do exactly.

5. Do the girls usually strike up conversations with you? Or will they only talk if you strike up a conversation?

6. From the reviews I've read, it seems like most people just get a BS upfront, but in the process venture into other things like DFK, DATY, PS, russian. I'm curious how that works exactly? Do you ask explicitly or do you just keep testing her boundaries until she says no?

7. I don't see any mentions of foot jobs. Is FJ on the same level of HJ as in all girls are ok with it and the tips are on the same level? If I ask for both HJ and FJ would that cost extra?

8. As I'm new I plan to start slow and just get a sensual massage with a HJ. Curious if anyone have good recommendations on where to go in Markham/Richmond Hill area for someone like me who's a first timer and would prefer some guidance along the way? I like young, attractive, easygoing girls that love what they do and does their job with passion, preferably not shy since I'll be the shy one lol.

TIA gents!

 

[Hornet]

If you walk-in you will usually be given the least busy girl unless you ask to see the other girls.

If you go to a semi-legit reviewed here just go with the flow and let the girl lead. Massage first, fun second. She might be talkative or very quiet if you are quiet. She will start a little tease prior to the flip. She’ll ask if you want “more” or “service”. Ask for a BS. She might ask you how much you tip. Make sure it is either $80 or $100 (on top of the door fee).

To start go to Level 1: Suko, Just Relax, Bellagio, or Sentosa. You can move up to Level 2: Reynaella, SL, EBW, Acewell, Aqua Bay, Lavender, etc. later.

 

[Scholastica]

If you walk-in you will usually be given the least busy girl unless you ask to see the other girls.

If you go to a semi-legit reviewed here just go with the flow and let the girl lead. Assuage first, fun second. She might be talkative or very quiet if you are quiet. She will start a little tease prior to the flip. She’ll ask if you want “more” or “service”. Ask for a BS. She might ask you how much you tip. Make sure it is either $80 or $100 (on top of the door fee).

To start go to Level 1: Suko, Just Relax, Bellagio, or Sentosa. You can move up to Level 2: Reynaella, SL, EBW, Acewell, Aqua Bay, Lavender, etc. later.

Thank you. Curious what are the differences between level 1 and 2?

 

[Hornet]

Level 1 is for beginners
Level 2 is intermediate

 

[Scholastica]

Level 1 is for beginners
Level 2 is intermediate

Yea but what makes them beginner and intermediate?

 

[Greatlong6969]

Good Question. I understand putting Suko and Just Relax which mostly offers HJ as beginner but Bellagio, or Sentosa? Going to Bellagio for a beginner is a bit complicated; it's a spa with mixed legit and different level of semi legit services. I would recommend to a beginner to read reviews of spas close to him and he can ask more specific questions to help picking the girls he likes before his visits.

 

[Pay2Play]

If you walk-in you will usually be given the least busy girl unless you ask to see the other girls.

If you go to a semi-legit reviewed here just go with the flow and let the girl lead. Assuage first, fun second. She might be talkative or very quiet if you are quiet. She will start a little tease prior to the flip. She’ll ask if you want “more” or “service”. Ask for a BS. She might ask you how much you tip. Make sure it is either $80 or $100 (on top of the door fee).

To start go to Level 1: Suko, Just Relax, Bellagio, or Sentosa. You can move up to Level 2: Reynaella, SL, EBW, Acewell, Aqua Bay, Lavender, etc. later.

Some of your level 1’s offer level 3 service

 

[Ricardo1988]

What is Leve1, 2, 3 please explain. Thanks

 

[Pay2Play]

What is Leve1, 2, 3 please explain. Thanks

Level 1 - Appetizer

Level 2 - Appetizer + Entree

Level 3 - Appetizer + Entree + Dessert

 

[Chris Rockman]

Thank you. Curious what are the differences between level 1 and 2?

Just the difference in the spa names; most semi girls move between those spas mentioned. Just Relax, Shangri-la, Suko are the top three, considered the biggest players, with over 90% of girls working or having worked there.

No need to feel shy; just tell the mama-san what services you need, and they will make the necessary arrangements. Most girls will offer you extra services towards the end of the massage session.

Occasionally, I've encountered girls who ask what extra services and how much tip you can give when just entering the room or in the hallway. From experience, if you encounter such a girl, it's best to switch or leave immediately as it's a sign of a bad experience.

 

[Scholastica]

No need to feel shy; just tell the mama-san what services you need, and they will make the necessary arrangements.

Do I literally tell her the "service" I want? As in, "get me someone that can do a BJ"? That sounds crazy to say that at the front desk, thought I had to be more coy about it.

 

[indieboi]

I think the best place for a first timer in RH/Markham would be Shangri-La or Just Relax.

The reason I put Just Relax is for one lady and one only. Nancy. She was my first AMP experience back in 2016 and it was probably the best possible option. She only offers HJ or BS from my knowledge so it's very easy for a first timer. And her HJ is incredible so I'd say you won't even need anything else your first visit...

Shangri-La because some of the girls are very outgoing and you mentioned you will be the shy one. Although there is a larger variety in what you can get there. The good thing is you can read the 100s of reviews on this site for the various popular girls there. Tina would probably be a good option for you as a first timer. She speaks great english and is quite talkative.

 

[Scholastica]

I think the best place for a first timer in RH/Markham would be Shangri-La or Just Relax.

The reason I put Just Relax is for one lady and one only. Nancy. She was my first AMP experience back in 2016 and it was probably the best possible option. She only offers HJ or BS from my knowledge so it's very easy for a first timer. And her HJ is incredible so I'd say you won't even need anything else your first visit...

Shangri-La because some of the girls are very outgoing and you mentioned you will be the shy one. Although there is a larger variety in what you can get there. The good thing is you can read the 100s of reviews on this site for the various popular girls there. Tina would probably be a good option for you as a first timer. She speaks great english and is quite talkative.

Thank you, this is very helpful! And after these, what are your recommendations for a level above that?

 

[Pay2Play]

Just the difference in the spa names; most semi girls move between those spas mentioned. Just Relax, Shangri-la, Suko are the top three, considered the biggest players, with over 90% of girls working or having worked there.

No need to feel shy; just tell the mama-san what services you need, and they will make the necessary arrangements. Most girls will offer you extra services towards the end of the massage session.

Occasionally, I've encountered girls who ask what extra services and how much tip you can give when just entering the room or in the hallway. From experience, if you encounter such a girl, it's best to switch or leave immediately as it's a sign of a bad experience.

I very much disagree with the top 3 spas being the top 3 spas. They are just sold to death.

I do agree 100% with your last paragraph.

 

[indieboi]

Answering the rest of your questions:

First off, not sure what your definition of "a person who goes to spas to get HEs" is lol. I'm literally in the same boat as you mid to late 20s, fit, work a normal job. There's a huge range of people that go to these places, for various reasons.

1. Do you have to do anything special, no. But things that help are light touching of the masseuse as she walks around, especially when she is above your head. And also spread your legs when she starts to graze her hands across your ass.

2. Sort of answered above, but if you spread your legs it's pretty much confirmed. If you clench your ass she would get the hint lol.

3. Most places will just put you in a room and one of the girls who is free will come in. Best for your case would be researching this forum ahead and knowing who to go with so you don't leave disappointed. My suggestions are above.

4. Showering is not necessary, you usually tell the girl you want to shower. It is rare that they shower with you ahead, sometimes after the massage to clean up they will hop in. You can request it but they will expect a larger tip. I let it happen naturally, which led to just 4-5 times in the last 8 years of this lol.

5. Again it really does depend on the girl, but if she is not confident in her English she will not initiate. And you will likely just get simple responses when you bring things up as well.

6. As someone above mentioned, some spas are "level 1" where it is strictly HJ or BS max. Others are more open for the things you mentioned. Best is to ask, girls at the same spa will have different boundaries. Another thing, it usually becomes easier upon repeat sessions once you have established some sort of rapport with a girl.

7. Never asked for a FJ or seen this discussed so honestly you might have to test this out. But it would definitely be a larger tip for this.

 

[indieboi]

Thank you, this is very helpful! And after these, what are your recommendations for a level above that?

Well Shangri-La has all the levels you would ever need lol. But Bellagio for sure - they have some young stunners. I&U Wellness has some gems. I have been reading good things about Reynaella and will be testing the waters next weekend.

 

[Scholastica]

I very much disagree with the top 3 spas being the top 3 spas. They are just sold to death.

I do agree 100% with your last paragraph.

Anything you recommend?

 

[Scholastica]

First off, not sure what your definition of "a person who goes to spas to get HEs" is lol

I expected the average goer to be a bit on the older side (30+), and a bit out of shape, but that's more so because the average person is out of shape. I could definitely be wrong though, didn't mean to disrespect anyone

Do you have to do anything special, no. But things that help are light touching of the masseuse as she walks around, especially when she is above your head.

Sorry but I'm pretty autistic when it comes to these things. Do you mind going into more detail about how you touch the girl? Do you touch her thigh? ass? For a short duration (1-3s) or longer (for the entire duration she's above your head)?

Showering is not necessary, you usually tell the girl you want to shower. It is rare that they shower with you ahead, sometimes after the massage to clean up they will hop in

Actually do you mind going over what happens after the release? Do you tip before or after hopping into the shower? If the girl doesn't hop into the shower with you, is she just standing outside the shower waiting for you? And if you tip after the shower, do you just leave the tip somewhere then head out before the girl is done showering?

Sorry for all the questions, I'm just very anxious if there are situations where I don't know what to do...

 

[Scholastica]

Well Shangri-La has all the levels you would ever need lol. But Bellagio for sure - they have some young stunners. I&U Wellness has some gems. I have been reading good things about Reynaella and will be testing the waters next weekend.

Thanks man, will check those places out!

 

[not impressed]

Hi gents, I'm new to the spa world and I've been doing a lot of research for the past few days. I still have some questions and I'm hoping someone would be willing to help clarify.

1. If I visit a semi-legit place let's say, do I need to do anything in particular proactively (flirting, touching, straight up asking) to let them know that I'm there for extras? Or can I literally just shut up and the girl will bring up the topic of extras at some point? To give more context I'm in my mid 20s, not ugly and have a fit body, I'm also a working professional and a very proper/polite person. I hope I don't come off like I'm bragging but all that is to say I don't look like someone who goes to massage parlours to get HEs, I'm afraid they'll just give me a legit massage thinking that's all I wanted.

2. Related to 1 but I know girls will do some "teasing" pre-flip. So how do they know whether I want extras (therefore I should be teased) or I only want legit massage before the flip? (My understanding is the specific extras you get is only confirmed after the flip)

3. If you walk-in without making an appointment, how does the "girl picking" process go? Would they show you pictures or have them line up in front of you for you to pick? The latter sounds very awkward to me lol.

4. When you go into the massage room, what are you supposed to do exactly? I think you're supposed to strip naked, shower, then lie on the bed face down, all while the girl is outside the room? Are you supposed to cover your ass up with the towel? (I've heard covered = asking for legit massage and not covered = asking for extras). I've also heard stories that seem to deviate from this script where the girl hop in the shower with them and stuff so idk how I'm supposed to know what to do exactly.

5. Do the girls usually strike up conversations with you? Or will they only talk if you strike up a conversation?

6. From the reviews I've read, it seems like most people just get a BS upfront, but in the process venture into other things like DFK, DATY, PS, russian. I'm curious how that works exactly? Do you ask explicitly or do you just keep testing her boundaries until she says no?

7. I don't see any mentions of foot jobs. Is FJ on the same level of HJ as in all girls are ok with it and the tips are on the same level? If I ask for both HJ and FJ would that cost extra?

8. As I'm new I plan to start slow and just get a sensual massage with a HJ. Curious if anyone have good recommendations on where to go in Markham/Richmond Hill area for someone like me who's a first timer and would prefer some guidance along the way? I like young, attractive, easygoing girls that love what they do and does their job with passion, preferably not shy since I'll be the shy one lol.

TIA gents!

Years ago we honed our skills in the bars, at the beach , on the street, elevators, grocery stores , wherever women roamed, we had to work hard to get a piece of ass and !!! We never paid for it !! …now , holy fuck ! Walk into a spa pull out the dick and 100 bucks ,wham bam you’re out the fucking door …what happened to the youth , where did they lose their confidence, their sense of adventure, I can’t believe this is becoming a Dear Abbey forum , spend some hours of the day whoring wherever you are ..