Home Care Advice for insomnia sufferers?

Misfit_101

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Hi There,

I have a client that suffers from insomnia, she is in her late 50's and she is constantly on the go from morning til bedtime. I have already tried adversing her to wind down a bit before retiring to bed, like reading ortaking a relaxing bath with lavender added andcandles etc,but I think this is a lifetimehabbit. She has a problem getting off to sleep and when se does finally drop off she wakes again a couple of hours later, and thisgoes on through the night. I also advised that she cut down on tea and coffee, or at least try decaf.
When my client has a massage once a week she always sleeps so much better that night. I would like to be able to offer her some good home care advice for insomnia, has anybody got any suggestions?
 
Seems like you have done your best. Has she taken up any of your advice?
Maybe as she has therapy with you, she may not be adverse to seeking hypnotherapy.
Everyone's different, does she want to change (yet)?
Good luck.
 
Does she feel unwell from the lack of sleep? I am lucky if I get four hours straight - I go to bed around 11.30pm, and invariably wake up at 3.30 - sometimes wide awake, so much so I get up. It is arare day that Ilast beyond 5.30am.

I do notfeelunwell, and have a good level of energy until about 7pm, when I sit down to watch the box. I don't drink coffee after 11 in the morning, and no tea after 6pm - 'builders' or herbal- just water.

I love it in the summer months, as I can take the dog for a walk. I was once stopped by a concerned policeman at 4am, out on his rounds, asking if I was OK - think he thought I was up to no good! If he sees me nowadays, he just waves and smiles and carries on driving past!!

I have always been like this, since childhood, and am 51 now. Old age should be interesting as you are supposed to need less sleep!

If your client is generally fit and healthy, then I don't think she should worry herself too much about it. Presume she has tried all the usual things like I have:
No tea/coffee after 6pm
Warm bath with sedative oils before bed
Warm milk based drink
No TV in the bedroom
Read an 'uncomplicated' book
Abdominal breathing techniques (with the lights switched off)
Lettuce with evening meals (once suggested to me by a TCM doctor - something in the lettuce that induces relaxation)

I tried them all, but it didn't make any difference, so have just concluded it is 'me', so I make the most of the few quiet hours I have in the early mornings - sometimes you find me on here!
 
one of my clients liked to go to bed with a cup of peppermint tea!
the aromatherapy oil is listed as being contra indicated for insomniacs,
she has been sleeping better since cutting out the peppermint tea and having chamomile instead

HG
 
Thank you for all your replies. My client says she doesnt particularly feel unwell through lack of sleep, but does feel really tired alot of the time, and finds it frustrating during the night when she cant sleep. She doesnt like to get up as she says she would start pottering about and wake other members of her family. Having the holistic approach with my massage therapy I want to be able to help by offering some good homecare advice, as this would be quite rewarding not only to clients but for me too.

Hi jabbathehut! From what you have said about your lack sleep its seems for you it has its good points, as when you say its nice in the summer months when you cango for an early morning walk with the dog, it must bevery peaceful i would imagine. You did make me giggle about bumping into a police man lol. Thank you for some of your tips, and lettuce eh? I never knew that!! I will certainly mention that to her. Also hypnotherapy is a consideration too, thanks mysterious me.

I guess for some people it doesnt cause any problems, I personally love my sleep and always slept very well, and if i dont get a good nights sleep it leaves me feeling prettygrotty for the rest of the day.
 
With my own experience i find their are two major causes to insomnia.

1) alcohol. even if its only a glass of wine with dinner each night it can seriously affect soem peoples sleep. majority of people think they dont drink too much but even small amounts may be too much for them and their liver at night.

2) somethign on their mind/worries. is this person worrying about anything? no matter how minor this is what might be keeping her awake at night.


you can drink peppermint tea or hot milk beofre bed till the cows come home and soak your pillow in lavender untill you unconcious, but if the two above arent addresses then the insomnia will continue, IMO.

you have to realise that insomnia is generally waking up after a short while and not beign able to get back to sleep, they usually don't have a problem getting to sleep in the first place. so whats waking them up?


It can be very beneficial when they wake to go eat or drink soemthing heavy to release the sleep enducing chemicals. weetabix is a good one, also warm milk.
 
Such a difficult topic when so many things can be affect the insomnia. Mine is sporadic, mostly due to the menopause (isn't everything?). When I am on an early shift at work, up by 0445, I find I am sleeping fitfully and then keep waking up also, so am very tired when I do get up. I am quite lucky in that I try and give myself reiki last thing at night and usually fall asleep with my hand on the heart chakra. This doesn't stop me waking in the night. I don't drink tea or coffee so can't blame that, alcohol not too often as my job is safety critical. When I went through a three month period of little sleep each nightit stressed it stressed me greatly.Then realised it was the peri-menopause and I stopped worrying about not sleeping! Now I just acknowledge the inability to sleep and realise it's just 'me' for now.
 
Hi All,
I am 41 and been a poor sleeper for over 20 years due to shoulder discomfort, any way I know it is habitual, I once had sleeping tablets for a week and slept well for over 2 months( not continuous.......) then woke up one night thinking about someting that must have been important at the time>>>> then slept poorly for months. Last month , one of my clients said I looked tired and she could help with accupuncture so we swapped a few sessions, on the second session she detected a blockage somewhere in the neck region, stabbed me with a big needle, no pain but within 5 seconds i was fast asleep, she left me for 30 mins, it was like having a general aneasthetic(spelling?). I slept well for most of last month, until one of my kids woke me in the middle of the night feeling unwell, now I dont sleep again.
My mind is always active and when I awaken, I am racing thoughts in my head and have to get up! I dont drink tea,coffee, fizzy pop, in fact I only drink water and very weak squash. At about 5 in the evening when I am listening to the kids read school books I can hardly keep my eyes open I feel so tired.
I have suggested that they read me a bedtime story, but that didnt go down well! best of luck with the sleep thing anyway whatever you decide to try.
regards
Gaz
 
Hello Misfit,
I can see that you really taking care of her much, and decaf is a better suggestion also. I got also a friend who only have decaf no matter how she want the other, its for her good. Tho still, I don't get why she still stay up so late! Atleast, when she started to have decaf she said there's still a good effect!
 
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    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New girl Ivy big boobs 36DD ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Hot and sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Suki and Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of parking spaces
  34. lotushubspa:
    Dear customers, Lotus Spa is located at 10737 Yonge St unit13. The girl who works today is named Anna๐Ÿ’‹Tina๐Ÿ’‹Mia๐Ÿ’‹. We have massages from Taiwan, China and Korea for you. First-class service. Come and try it quickly๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ’‹Please contact 9052375885๐Ÿ’‹ or SMS 4163565876๐Ÿ’‹
  35. Sunrise Spa:
    ๐Ÿ˜˜ We have a wonderful Asian spa in downtown Toronto ๐Ÿ˜˜ 302 Adelaide St W, 2nd Floor ๐Ÿ˜˜ Today is Coco, Caribbean Sophie and Kitty ๐Ÿ˜˜ 416-916-7276
  36. hiyamickey:
    7 girls working at Reinella wellness, 19 years Japanese girl Hannah, 20 years old Japanese girl Amanda, Angela, Lulu, Sasha, Queenie, Ella @ 6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  37. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Foxy -๐Ÿ”ฅYour new addiction at Sparkling Spa! A tall 5โ€™7โ€ sexy Korean girl with a wi
  38. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ KAJAL, ELENA, CINDY and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  39. #203MoMo&Beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Turkish Persian girl and Asian girl today
  40. AliceSpa:
    SATURDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 416-298-0898 [/color] 3 Top Girls Today at Alice Spa: *New today, NANCY: is a young, petite & busty JAPANESE cutie. Nancy is short with a small body, pretty babyface, AV Star type. MAGGIE (10am-9pm) (1pm-9pm) is young pretty & petite. Short & super slim, busty HK student, great massage
  41. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž Saturday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY & MIA. CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. MIA is a young 27 JAPANESE girl, curvy, good massage bbj cim, nice and open minded.
  42. ASPA:
    SATURDAY at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Jenny, Rachel & Tracy. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ JENNY is a sexy Asian honey, about 165 Cms., slim to medium build, beautiful natural 36Cโ€™s, long sexy legs & big hips, good massage & excellent services. Jenny has sexy smooth skin and a very good personality.
  43. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Apple๐Ÿ˜˜ - Brand new girl from Taiwan ju
  44. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธAMY & NANA. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills Nana is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด
  45. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups, 160 Cms and 50 Kgs, with a full set of services to delight you. TIFFANY is amazing slim petite
  46. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Sasa is here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿซฆ Sasa is Young Pretty Chinese Girl ๐Ÿ’„ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  47. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Yoyo & Nayla are in today ๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Yoyo is a Very HOT n' Sexy Asian. ๐Ÿ‘ Nayla is a Tall, Young, Beautiful & Curvy Spanish Girl. ๐Ÿ’‹ All Our Girls Provide Lots of E X T R A S & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open from 8am til Late Everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young naughty Yoyo 30โ€™s 36DD with big buttocks open mind and small cute EFG Lina , pretty Ella and young sweet slime Sophia 30โ€™s are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North YorK
  49. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Eva๐Ÿค—๐Ÿ˜˜Another new addition to the Annie Spa line up!! Eva is a sexy young massage girl from Taiwan ready to showcase her talents. Her touch combines precision and intuition, offering a deeply immersive and soothing experience. E
  50. See You Health Center:
    Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
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