Review Incall AGENCY Reviews 2021 Part 2: ToP, Mirage, DD, Hush, Minx

[PTown]

Here's Part 2 with some other visits that were made and how they went. These are generally from when the last Massage Spa lockdown started last year to present day:

AGENCY: Toronto Passions (TOPassions)

Cassandra: I found her really hot. Greeted me in her civies. Pretty face, and a nice tight body w/ big tits sticking out while wearing tight jeans and a fitted top. Very sexy. Mid to late 20s, but has a baby-face imo. Canadian born, told me Portuguese/Brazilian descent. Olive skin and about 5’5. I was really into her look. Has a friendly personality and we clicked together very well. Her disposition is that of wanting to please you (at least it was w/ me). She provided heavy DFK/BBBJ/DATY/FS/CIM. Definite Repeat for me.

AGENCY: Mirage

Lisey: (Salma from Premier Spa’s) I just love her look. Reminds me of porn star Abby Lee Brazil. Pretty face, tight toned body (some tats on back shoulder, forearm). Always smiling and has a happy engaging personality. Olive skin. From Cuba. Playful. Her looks and attitude really did it for me. Likely very late 20s or somewhere in her 30s. About 5’5. Gives top-tier DFK, sloppy and LOTS of tongue. Does FS/DATY/BBBJ/CIM. Repeat. (Now back at Perla/Pure as Salma)

Aspen: French Canadian of Colombian descent from Quebec City. Speaks good English. Not as hot as her pics, but did the job. I thought she was of Indian descent easily. Has multiple tats up both arms, not quite sleeves but close. About 5’2, mid 20s, petite, not a spinner but not thick at all, just petite. Very friendly. We got along. Seems like she wants to be there. GND level face. Does kissing, but closed mouth to start. Warmed up to LFK verging on DFK later on. Gets naturally wet. Service includes DATY/BBBJ/FS/CIM. Seems to really enjoy FS (no lube needed). Overall, a good time, w/ a cute girl w/ a nice attitude. Repeat.

AGENCY: Discreet Dolls:

Selena: Latina, told me Colombian, Has a nice face, and okay body. Little bit of meat on the legs and ass. Tits average size. Mid 20s. Former stripper. We got along well. Did DFK/DATY/BBBJ also gave me lap dances before the main event. Repeat.

Maya: Looked good. High level gnd face, nice body. Natural big tits, small waist, nice ass & legs. Seemed young, early 20s. Told me she is mulatto. We got along really well. Somewhat new to the industry & I saw her when she first started (so months ago). Gives nice DFK, will do tongue swirls in your mouth. Gets really wet. Provides BBBJ/FS/DATY/DIGITS/CIM. If she doesn’t get burned out or jaded, she will get much better. Repeat.

Agency: Minx Companions:

Sophia: Her body is really nice. Just like the pictures. She’s about 5’4. Def some type of Euro descent, Canadian born. Late 20s, maybe 30ish. Her face is just above GND hot I would say. Body is better than face for me. Smiles A LOT and was constantly laughing in a genuine way. For kissing it was a buildup, started closed mouth but by the end it was full blown DFK w/ her tongue swirling inside my mouth. For service also provides DATY/BBBJ/FS. Does a lot of moaning. Guys have described her pussy as shallow and I see what they mean now. Couldn’t really get deep inside. Nice session w/ a sexy babe. I wouldn’t rush back but she’s a Repeat.

Bridgette: Has slight resemblance to porn star Athena Faris imo. But like a distant cousin who is nowhere near as hot. Canadian born, Scottish/Irish descent. Did SP work in Ottawa b/f. Loves to chat. Face to me was just okay, looked better depending on the angle. Has a super lean spinner’s body. Really skinny. Like anorexic skinny. Tight tummy. She seemed late 20s or early 30s but kept mentioning she is 22yrs old. No tits. Tanned body. Wears huge fake eyelashes. Does DFK/DATY/BBBJ/FS offers CIM for 40 more (I declined, mood killer). Lots of fake moaning. Overall, something about her did not do it for me. No Repeat.

Anastasia: She looks like her pics, yet I found the pics slightly hotter. GND face. Dyed blond hair in front, brunette for rest. Seems early 20s. Slim body. Short. Told me half native, half Quebec descent. Has a pleasant, willing to please personality. Easy to get along with. Has lower lip stud. Small tits. Has some tats. Does DFK/BBBJ/DATY/FS/CIM. Repeat.

Venus: Told me Korean born & came to Canada as a baby, so pretty Westernized. Avg gnd face, okay body. Slim waste though and looked really good in some poses. Has various tats that stand out. Easy to get along with. Provides lots of DFK w/DATY/BBBJ/FS/CIM. Has a pretty passive personality and let’s you control the session pretty much (almost feels what Geisha-like would be in a sense). I can see why a lot of clients book her just based on that. To me, she’s not mind-blowingly hot per se, but is cute and has good service. I’m not in a rush to see her again but she’s easily in the Repeat category.

AGENCY: Hush Companions:

Lux: Mulatto, 5’9-5’10 range. Pretty face. Super lean body. I would call her a tall spinner. Amazing long legs/ass combo. Likely late 20s or more. Very friendly and has a willing-to-please attitude. Makes you really feel that she wants you to enjoy yourself and wants to be there right with you. Hair was up in classic BlowJob Pony-tail mode which was sexy too. Gets really wet. Provides DFK/BBBJ/FS/DATY/CIM. Agency has full length mirrors at the incall and they just enhanced the experience w/ her. Def Repeat.

Kailani (former Nina from Premier Spa’s) Overall my personal favorite from all my incall visits at the time. For me, just a complete Bombshell w/ a super-high sex drive. A simply stellar body in my eyes. Looks just like her pictures, and I LOVE that style of woman. Super-slim with big fake tits. Tight and toned everywhere. Super-hot face. About 5’5. Early to mid 20s. Her look really does it for me. Honestly felt like I was with a favorite Porn Star. We clicked and got along very well. I could write a Penthouse Letter about this experience but will keep it brief. Provided DFK/BBBJ/FS/DATY/CIM in spades. More than lived up to her Premier Spa Legends status in my eyes. Rarely works now. Def Repeat.

 

[Sybarite]

Here's Part 2 with some other visits that were made and how they went. These are generally from when the last Massage Spa lockdown started last year to present day:

AGENCY: Toronto Passions (TOPassions)

Cassandra: I found her really hot. Greeted me in her civies. Pretty face, and a nice tight body w/ big tits sticking out while wearing tight jeans and a fitted top. Very sexy. Mid to late 20s, but has a baby-face imo. Canadian born, told me Portuguese/Brazilian descent. Olive skin and about 5’5. I was really into her look. Has a friendly personality and we clicked together very well. Her disposition is that of wanting to please you (at least it was w/ me). She provided heavy DFK/BBBJ/DATY/FS/CIM. Definite Repeat for me.

AGENCY: Mirage

Lisey: (Salma from Premier Spa’s) I just love her look. Reminds me of porn star Abby Lee Brazil. Pretty face, tight toned body (some tats on back shoulder, forearm). Always smiling and has a happy engaging personality. Olive skin. From Cuba. Playful. Her looks and attitude really did it for me. Likely very late 20s or somewhere in her 30s. About 5’5. Gives top-tier DFK, sloppy and LOTS of tongue. Does FS/DATY/BBBJ/CIM. Repeat. (Now back at Perla/Pure as Salma)

Aspen: French Canadian of Colombian descent from Quebec City. Speaks good English. Not as hot as her pics, but did the job. I thought she was of Indian descent easily. Has multiple tats up both arms, not quite sleeves but close. About 5’2, mid 20s, petite, not a spinner but not thick at all, just petite. Very friendly. We got along. Seems like she wants to be there. GND level face. Does kissing, but closed mouth to start. Warmed up to LFK verging on DFK later on. Gets naturally wet. Service includes DATY/BBBJ/FS/CIM. Seems to really enjoy FS (no lube needed). Overall, a good time, w/ a cute girl w/ a nice attitude. Repeat.

AGENCY: Discreet Dolls:

Selena: Latina, told me Colombian, Has a nice face, and okay body. Little bit of meat on the legs and ass. Tits average size. Mid 20s. Former stripper. We got along well. Did DFK/DATY/BBBJ also gave me lap dances before the main event. Repeat.

Maya: Looked good. High level gnd face, nice body. Natural big tits, small waist, nice ass & legs. Seemed young, early 20s. Told me she is mulatto. We got along really well. Somewhat new to the industry & I saw her when she first started (so months ago). Gives nice DFK, will do tongue swirls in your mouth. Gets really wet. Provides BBBJ/FS/DATY/DIGITS/CIM. If she doesn’t get burned out or jaded, she will get much better. Repeat.

Agency: Minx Companions:

Sophia: Her body is really nice. Just like the pictures. She’s about 5’4. Def some type of Euro descent, Canadian born. Late 20s, maybe 30ish. Her face is just above GND hot I would say. Body is better than face for me. Smiles A LOT and was constantly laughing in a genuine way. For kissing it was a buildup, started closed mouth but by the end it was full blown DFK w/ her tongue swirling inside my mouth. For service also provides DATY/BBBJ/FS. Does a lot of moaning. Guys have described her pussy as shallow and I see what they mean now. Couldn’t really get deep inside. Nice session w/ a sexy babe. I wouldn’t rush back but she’s a Repeat.

Bridgette: Has slight resemblance to porn star Athena Faris imo. But like a distant cousin who is nowhere near as hot. Canadian born, Scottish/Irish descent. Did SP work in Ottawa b/f. Loves to chat. Face to me was just okay, looked better depending on the angle. Has a super lean spinner’s body. Really skinny. Like anorexic skinny. Tight tummy. She seemed late 20s or early 30s but kept mentioning she is 22yrs old. No tits. Tanned body. Wears huge fake eyelashes. Does DFK/DATY/BBBJ/FS offers CIM for 40 more (I declined, mood killer). Lots of fake moaning. Overall, something about her did not do it for me. No Repeat.

Anastasia: She looks like her pics, yet I found the pics slightly hotter. GND face. Dyed blond hair in front, brunette for rest. Seems early 20s. Slim body. Short. Told me half native, half Quebec descent. Has a pleasant, willing to please personality. Easy to get along with. Has lower lip stud. Small tits. Has some tats. Does DFK/BBBJ/DATY/FS/CIM. Repeat.

Venus: Told me Korean born & came to Canada as a baby, so pretty Westernized. Avg gnd face, okay body. Slim waste though and looked really good in some poses. Has various tats that stand out. Easy to get along with. Provides lots of DFK w/DATY/BBBJ/FS/CIM. Has a pretty passive personality and let’s you control the session pretty much (almost feels what Geisha-like would be in a sense). I can see why a lot of clients book her just based on that. To me, she’s not mind-blowingly hot per se, but is cute and has good service. I’m not in a rush to see her again but she’s easily in the Repeat category.

AGENCY: Hush Companions:

Lux: Mulatto, 5’9-5’10 range. Pretty face. Super lean body. I would call her a tall spinner. Amazing long legs/ass combo. Likely late 20s or more. Very friendly and has a willing-to-please attitude. Makes you really feel that she wants you to enjoy yourself and wants to be there right with you. Hair was up in classic BlowJob Pony-tail mode which was sexy too. Gets really wet. Provides DFK/BBBJ/FS/DATY/CIM. Agency has full length mirrors at the incall and they just enhanced the experience w/ her. Def Repeat.

Kailani (former Nina from Premier Spa’s) Overall my personal favorite from all my incall visits at the time. For me, just a complete Bombshell w/ a super-high sex drive. A simply stellar body in my eyes. Looks just like her pictures, and I LOVE that style of woman. Super-slim with big fake tits. Tight and toned everywhere. Super-hot face. About 5’5. Early to mid 20s. Her look really does it for me. Honestly felt like I was with a favorite Porn Star. We clicked and got along very well. I could write a Penthouse Letter about this experience but will keep it brief. Provided DFK/BBBJ/FS/DATY/CIM in spades. More than lived up to her Premier Spa Legends status in my eyes. Rarely works now. Def Repeat.

Stellar reviews like always PTown. Sounds like most of your SP experiences were pretty positive on balance. Now that the spas are open again, what are your thoughts on the pros and cons of visiting girls at the spas vs. the escort agencies?

 

[Polarvortex]

Here's Part 2 with some other visits that were made and how they went. These are generally from when the last Massage Spa lockdown started last year to present day:

AGENCY: Toronto Passions (TOPassions)

Cassandra: I found her really hot. Greeted me in her civies. Pretty face, and a nice tight body w/ big tits sticking out while wearing tight jeans and a fitted top. Very sexy. Mid to late 20s, but has a baby-face imo. Canadian born, told me Portuguese/Brazilian descent. Olive skin and about 5’5. I was really into her look. Has a friendly personality and we clicked together very well. Her disposition is that of wanting to please you (at least it was w/ me). She provided heavy DFK/BBBJ/DATY/FS/CIM. Definite Repeat for me.

AGENCY: Mirage

Lisey: (Salma from Premier Spa’s) I just love her look. Reminds me of porn star Abby Lee Brazil. Pretty face, tight toned body (some tats on back shoulder, forearm). Always smiling and has a happy engaging personality. Olive skin. From Cuba. Playful. Her looks and attitude really did it for me. Likely very late 20s or somewhere in her 30s. About 5’5. Gives top-tier DFK, sloppy and LOTS of tongue. Does FS/DATY/BBBJ/CIM. Repeat. (Now back at Perla/Pure as Salma)

Aspen: French Canadian of Colombian descent from Quebec City. Speaks good English. Not as hot as her pics, but did the job. I thought she was of Indian descent easily. Has multiple tats up both arms, not quite sleeves but close. About 5’2, mid 20s, petite, not a spinner but not thick at all, just petite. Very friendly. We got along. Seems like she wants to be there. GND level face. Does kissing, but closed mouth to start. Warmed up to LFK verging on DFK later on. Gets naturally wet. Service includes DATY/BBBJ/FS/CIM. Seems to really enjoy FS (no lube needed). Overall, a good time, w/ a cute girl w/ a nice attitude. Repeat.

AGENCY: Discreet Dolls:

Selena: Latina, told me Colombian, Has a nice face, and okay body. Little bit of meat on the legs and ass. Tits average size. Mid 20s. Former stripper. We got along well. Did DFK/DATY/BBBJ also gave me lap dances before the main event. Repeat.

Maya: Looked good. High level gnd face, nice body. Natural big tits, small waist, nice ass & legs. Seemed young, early 20s. Told me she is mulatto. We got along really well. Somewhat new to the industry & I saw her when she first started (so months ago). Gives nice DFK, will do tongue swirls in your mouth. Gets really wet. Provides BBBJ/FS/DATY/DIGITS/CIM. If she doesn’t get burned out or jaded, she will get much better. Repeat.

Agency: Minx Companions:

Sophia: Her body is really nice. Just like the pictures. She’s about 5’4. Def some type of Euro descent, Canadian born. Late 20s, maybe 30ish. Her face is just above GND hot I would say. Body is better than face for me. Smiles A LOT and was constantly laughing in a genuine way. For kissing it was a buildup, started closed mouth but by the end it was full blown DFK w/ her tongue swirling inside my mouth. For service also provides DATY/BBBJ/FS. Does a lot of moaning. Guys have described her pussy as shallow and I see what they mean now. Couldn’t really get deep inside. Nice session w/ a sexy babe. I wouldn’t rush back but she’s a Repeat.

Bridgette: Has slight resemblance to porn star Athena Faris imo. But like a distant cousin who is nowhere near as hot. Canadian born, Scottish/Irish descent. Did SP work in Ottawa b/f. Loves to chat. Face to me was just okay, looked better depending on the angle. Has a super lean spinner’s body. Really skinny. Like anorexic skinny. Tight tummy. She seemed late 20s or early 30s but kept mentioning she is 22yrs old. No tits. Tanned body. Wears huge fake eyelashes. Does DFK/DATY/BBBJ/FS offers CIM for 40 more (I declined, mood killer). Lots of fake moaning. Overall, something about her did not do it for me. No Repeat.

Anastasia: She looks like her pics, yet I found the pics slightly hotter. GND face. Dyed blond hair in front, brunette for rest. Seems early 20s. Slim body. Short. Told me half native, half Quebec descent. Has a pleasant, willing to please personality. Easy to get along with. Has lower lip stud. Small tits. Has some tats. Does DFK/BBBJ/DATY/FS/CIM. Repeat.

Venus: Told me Korean born & came to Canada as a baby, so pretty Westernized. Avg gnd face, okay body. Slim waste though and looked really good in some poses. Has various tats that stand out. Easy to get along with. Provides lots of DFK w/DATY/BBBJ/FS/CIM. Has a pretty passive personality and let’s you control the session pretty much (almost feels what Geisha-like would be in a sense). I can see why a lot of clients book her just based on that. To me, she’s not mind-blowingly hot per se, but is cute and has good service. I’m not in a rush to see her again but she’s easily in the Repeat category.

AGENCY: Hush Companions:

Lux: Mulatto, 5’9-5’10 range. Pretty face. Super lean body. I would call her a tall spinner. Amazing long legs/ass combo. Likely late 20s or more. Very friendly and has a willing-to-please attitude. Makes you really feel that she wants you to enjoy yourself and wants to be there right with you. Hair was up in classic BlowJob Pony-tail mode which was sexy too. Gets really wet. Provides DFK/BBBJ/FS/DATY/CIM. Agency has full length mirrors at the incall and they just enhanced the experience w/ her. Def Repeat.

Kailani (former Nina from Premier Spa’s) Overall my personal favorite from all my incall visits at the time. For me, just a complete Bombshell w/ a super-high sex drive. A simply stellar body in my eyes. Looks just like her pictures, and I LOVE that style of woman. Super-slim with big fake tits. Tight and toned everywhere. Super-hot face. About 5’5. Early to mid 20s. Her look really does it for me. Honestly felt like I was with a favorite Porn Star. We clicked and got along very well. I could write a Penthouse Letter about this experience but will keep it brief. Provided DFK/BBBJ/FS/DATY/CIM in spades. More than lived up to her Premier Spa Legends status in my eyes. Rarely works now. Def Repeat.

bro tell me Selena doesnt remind you of kim kardashian by the way she talks and even some of her expressions!!!

 

[PTown]

Stellar reviews like always PTown. Sounds like most of your SP experiences were pretty positive on balance. Now that the spas are open again, what are your thoughts on the pros and cons of visiting girls at the spas vs. the escort agencies?

Thanks.

Quite the question you’ve given me (once I’ve actually given it some thought, lol). I mean I could write alot and I did write more than I excepted. Probably left out alot too, but here is how I see it to an extent.

It’s important to note that not all these Pro’s and Con’s are weighted equally. Some have much more value than others, and that will depend on the guy and his situation too.

Spa Pros:

1) Safety: I feel it’s safer for the clients and esp the girls. I personally feel more secure at the spa.

2) Spa environment: Can feel professional. Can feel somewhat classy (the higher tier ones). Can be like an Adult Disney World for Guy’s. Can feel like you’re spoiling yourself. Can feel like a true ‘escape’.

3) Ease of booking: Esp for last min, same-day, or walk-in.

4) Convenience: You know where it is and have a good idea of your commute. Some spa’s locations just work super-well for those with limited windows of opportunity.

5) Variety of girls: Easier to meet potential new candidates. Usually, more candidates entering the biz at this level vs Incall in the past imo.

6) Sense of Adventure: When you hit the jackpot here it just feels next level, whereas for Incalls it’s pretty much expected certain things will be offered. Plus, some of the incalls can just feel like seedy experiences when compared against some of the higher tier (or even avg level) spa’s.

7) New Recruits: B/f the stripper influx, I found many girls were doing this for the first-time w/ no experience in any adult industry. Getting to discover these gems as they explore and open up to their own sexual needs/desires can be mind-blowing. IE. The girl says no kissing and by the end of the session she’s so turned on you’re getting full DFK and even CIM. And I found this happens more in the Spa Industry.

8) No Screening BS like some agencies and independents require. Let alone EMT (huge dealbreaker for me personally).

9) Receptionists: Usually cute to hot. Can be great assets to have on your side - for referrals/info/screening. Plus, you get a nice visual b/f your session, almost like a visual appetizer b/f the main course comes in. They also provide a good sense of checks & balances when/if something goes wrong. This holds for the good ones at least, the poor ones are a big Con. So, they can lift up or bring down the experience to a large degree.

10) Being Pampered: Though this is getting worse and worse, some girls really can spoil you in the room. Whereas Incall is more likely about just doing the deed & can lack the buildup that is more likely to happen at the Spa.

11) The PARADE (need I say more? Lol)

Spa Cons:

1) Inconsistency in Service: Probably the biggest overall negative working against them. I’ve said it before, provide/offer DFK/BBBJ/FS in the least and pretend you want to be there, and you’re pretty much golden and guaranteed to do well as an attendant as long as you have the looks to back it up.

2) Inconsistency in Price: Too many hustlers. Too many outrageous tip asks. Too much delusion. Too many trying to milk the client dry (aka killing the Golden Goose). Too much greed w/ lack of business sense.

This is something the Spa itself needs to regulate better, b/c the price gougers slowly erode and damage the spa’s reputation and basically chase away clients from returning or push them toward SPs where price is pretty much locked in for what you’re getting.

3) I’ll call it the Wolfpack aspect: Basically, when you run into other clients (guys). I’m not a fan of entering the place and there are already dudes there waiting or hovering around or coming in behind me. Usually not a big deal, and the better spa’s filter this well as to minimize it. But it can still take away from the ‘mirage’ you’re trying to create for yourself. Personally, I don’t want/enjoy any social aspect w/ men around me when I Hobby.

4) False Advertising: Too many spa girls selling themselves on social media like if you see them you’ll experience the second coming of the Kama Sutra, yet all they offer is a false illusion meaning no kissing & only covered services aka a waste of time & money.

Incall Agency Pros:

1) Service: certain things are pretty much guaranteed. Compared to the spa scene, Incall service is MUCH more consistent and reliable. Not to say it’s perfect (always best to research), but miles ahead of the Spa’s.

2) Price: Generally, much better than the Spa’s. Usually, no surprises either. Much less sticker shock when dealing w/ agencies. At the spa you are at the attendant’s mercy so to speak nowadays w/ whatever number she decides to throw out.

3) Variety: though this has suffered since Covid. It’s a Pro for both I think.

4) Beds: Some guys just love having the bed vs the massage table. Plus some incalls have nice full length mirrors.

Incall Agency Cons:

1) Booking: compared to the spa, it’s extra work, time and effort. I’m not a fan of the whole texting back and forth. Some bookers are good, others not so good. Sometimes your waiting too long to get replies too.

2) Hotel/Condo/Incall: I’m not a fan of the hotel/condo scene. It feels too much like ‘Cloak & Dagger’ for me versus the Spa. Also, I know where the Spa’s are, for some agencies, they switch incalls and that can screw up my allotted time to get away, or it just turns into an inconvenient location.

3) Parking: generally free and much easier at the spa. For some incalls can be difficult and an extra charge to add.

4) Waiting to get the go-ahead & room #: This part I’ve really come to loathe. You arrive at the Incall, text to let them know and the waiting game begins.

5) Allotted Session Time: For the Spa’s I frequent shower time is completely separate from the session time. For incalls, your shower time is included in the total time you have booked. So basically this cuts your session time by an easy 5-10m if you take 2 showers (which I like to do). This is why I usually book for 40/45m sessions, so I don’t feel as rushed.

6) Start time: It seems that Agencies and girls in this environment are more clock-watchers. For me, my time begins when I enter the room, but apparently for some agencies they start the timer on you once they text you the room #.

7) When it goes South: I find when an incall session is not satisfying or, even worse, it’s poor to bad, it just seems to sting a lot more then when it happens at the Spa. Maybe b/c at the spa there are potential instant back-ups on premises you can book right away for recovery? Plus I found w/ incall it’s much more important to research who you are booking and more volatile trying out new, unknown girls.

8) Going All the Way: Sometimes I just want to be pampered and am very content w/DFK and BBBJ so I just ‘upgrade’ to that level at the spa, but for incall you’re always paying the FS price, so it’s almost like even if you’re not quite feeling the need for FS right than it can feel like you ripped yourself off by not engaging in it (since you already paid for it type mentality). Here it’s not about how much you paid, but more along the lines of the principle of feeling you won’t be getting your money’s worth unless you go all the way.

9) Late Night: Spa’s are generally open for late night action (past 9pm to the AM), whereas the majority of Agency Incalls are closed by 9pm or 10pm.

Right now, I feel since the Spa’s reopened it’s like the Wild Wild West (in a bad way) out there in terms of Service, Quality, Pricing, in what you’re going to get. Outside of established girls, there is little to no control or oversight, esp for the new girls & some returning ones, as to what you’re in for. Too many with restrictive services, too much inflated and unreasonable price gouging, and not enough new and good selection versus days of the past, esp pre-covid era.

I couldn’t wait for the Spa’s reopening. My initial plan was I’m thinking I’d be doing a 90/10 split on visiting Spa/Incall once the Spa’s (my preferred choice) reopened but b/c the Spa’s have largely shit the bed in this new era, I’m finding myself going more and more to Incalls b/c the value and most importantly the “good-time” aspect is more prevalent there on most days. I’m still checking the Spa’s first and esp when I want something last min, but they’ve dropped the ball imo and lost business b/c of it. Talent and service are weak all round. I’ll go, I’ll spend, but I need what I’m looking for and that is not overpriced, restrictive, & transactional service.

 

[PTown]

bro tell me Selena doesnt remind you of kim kardashian by the way she talks and even some of her expressions!!!

LOL, yeah I can see it to a certain extent.

I remember she told me she was a stripper outside the GTA b/f doing Incall (once they shut them down). I mentioned she should try out the Spa scene when it re-opens. She seemed intimidated by it though.

Speaking of Kim, I wouldn't mind a Kendall Jenner look-alike entering the scene either, lol.

 

[Deleted member 92532]

Interesting comments on MPs vs SPs.

I’ve had maybe one great and one good SP encounter so far. MPs have had more great experiences than good or bad.

I agree the booking and all that is kind of a pain in the ass vs just walking in - though I’ve been lucky cause I could easily see the girl I want to be with at an MP being unavailable and I’d have to make due. That’s only really happened once so far and that still ended up being a good time.

 

[Goober]

Another pro for incalls is the privacy and alone time with the SP when you're there. Sometimes for spas you have to wait with the other guys in the waiting room which for me would be very awkward. Good thing the times that I've went to a spa, I didn't have to do that. Also a tip for number 4 (waiting to get to go ahead to get into the room), you should be around the location 10 mins before your time and text them to say that you're already there.

 

[xtc27]

Thanks.

Quite the question you’ve given me (once I’ve actually given it some thought, lol). I mean I could write alot and I did write more than I excepted. Probably left out alot too, but here is how I see it to an extent.

It’s important to note that not all these Pro’s and Con’s are weighted equally. Some have much more value than others, and that will depend on the guy and his situation too.

Spa Pros:

1) Safety: I feel it’s safer for the clients and esp the girls. I personally feel more secure at the spa.

2) Spa environment: Can feel professional. Can feel somewhat classy (the higher tier ones). Can be like an Adult Disney World for Guy’s. Can feel like you’re spoiling yourself. Can feel like a true ‘escape’.

3) Ease of booking: Esp for last min, same-day, or walk-in.

4) Convenience: You know where it is and have a good idea of your commute. Some spa’s locations just work super-well for those with limited windows of opportunity.

5) Variety of girls: Easier to meet potential new candidates. Usually, more candidates entering the biz at this level vs Incall in the past imo.

6) Sense of Adventure: When you hit the jackpot here is just feels next level, whereas for Incalls it’s pretty much expected certain things will be offered. Plus, some of the incalls can just feel like seedy experiences when compared against some of the higher tier (or even avg level) spa’s.

7) New Recruits: B/f the stripper influx, I found many girls were doing this for the first-time w/ no experience in any adult industry. Getting to discover these gems as they explore and open up to their own sexual needs/desires can be mind-blowing. IE. The girl says no kissing and by the end of the session she’s so turned on you’re getting full DFK and even CIM. And I found this happens more in the Spa Industry.

8) No Screening BS like some agencies and independents require. Let alone EMT (huge dealbreaker for me personally).

9) Receptionists: Usually cute to hot. Can be great assets to have on your side - for referrals/info/screening. Plus, you get a nice visual b/f your session, almost like a visual appetizer b/f the main course comes in. They also provide a good sense of checks & balances when/if something goes wrong. This holds for the good ones at least, the poor ones are a big Con. So, they can lift up or bring down the experience to a large degree.

10) Being Pampered: Though this is getting worse and worse, some girls really can spoil you in the room. Whereas Incall is more likely about just doing the deed & can lack the buildup that is more likely to happen at the Spa.

11) The PARADE (need I say more? Lol)

Spa Cons:

1) Inconsistency in Service: Probably the biggest overall negative working against them. I’ve said it before, provide/offer DFK/BBBJ/FS in the least and pretend you want to be there, and you’re pretty much golden and guaranteed to do well as an attendant as long as you have the looks to back it up.

2) Inconsistency in Price: Too many hustlers. Too many outrageous tip asks. Too much delusion. Too many trying to milk the client dry (aka killing the Golden Goose). Too much greed w/ lack of business sense.

This is something the Spa itself needs to regulate better, b/c the price gougers slowly erode and damage the spa’s reputation and basically chase away clients from returning or push them toward SPs where price is pretty much locked in for what you’re getting.

3) I’ll call it the Wolfpack aspect: Basically, when you run into other clients (guys). I’m not a fan of entering the place and there are already dudes there waiting or hovering around or coming in behind me. Usually not a big deal, and the better spa’s filter this well as to minimize it. But it can still take away from the ‘mirage’ you’re trying to create for yourself. Personally, I don’t want/enjoy any social aspect w/ men around me when I Hobby.

4) False Advertising: Too many spa girls selling themselves on social media like if you see them you’ll experience the second coming of the Kama Sutra, yet all they offer is a false illusion meaning no kissing & only covered services aka a waste of time & money.

Incall Agency Pros:

1) Service: certain things are pretty much guaranteed. Compared to the spa scene, Incall service is MUCH more consistent and reliable. Not to say it’s perfect (always best to research), but miles ahead of the Spa’s.

2) Price: Generally, much better than the Spa’s. Usually, no surprises either. Much less sticker shock when dealing w/ agencies. At the spa you are at the attendant’s mercy so to speak nowadays w/ whatever number she decides to throw out.

3) Variety: though this has suffered since Covid. It’s a Pro for both I think.

4) Beds: Some guys just love having the bed vs the massage table. Plus some incalls have nice full length mirrors.

Incall Agency Cons:

1) Booking: compared to the spa, it’s extra work, time and effort. I’m not a fan of the whole texting back and forth. Some bookers are good, others not so good. Sometimes your waiting too long to get replies too.

2) Hotel/Condo/Incall: I’m not a fan of the hotel/condo scene. It feels too much like ‘Cloak & Dagger’ for me versus the Spa. Also, I know where the Spa’s are, for some agencies, they switch incalls and that can screw up my allotted time to get away, or it just turns into an inconvenient location.

3) Parking: generally free and much easier at the spa. For some incalls can be difficult and an extra charge to add.

4) Waiting to get the go-ahead & room #: This part I’ve really come to loathe. You arrive at the Incall, text to let them know and the waiting game begins.

5) Allotted Session Time: For the Spa’s I frequent shower time is completely separate from the session time. For incalls, your shower time is included in the total time you have booked. So basically this cuts your session time by an easy 5-10m if you take 2 showers (which I like to do). This is why I usually book for 40/45m sessions, so I don’t feel as rushed.

6) Start time: It seems that Agencies and girls in this environment are more clock-watchers. For me, my time begins when I enter the room, but apparently for some agencies they start the timer on you once they text you the room #.

7) When it goes South: I find when an incall session is not satisfying or, even worse, it’s poor to bad, it just seems to sting a lot more then when it happens at the Spa. Maybe b/c at the spa there are potential instant back-ups on premises you can book right away for recovery? Plus I found w/ incall it’s much more important to research who you are booking and more volatile trying out new, unknown girls.

8) Going All the Way: Sometimes I just want to be pampered and am very content w/DFK and BBBJ so I just ‘upgrade’ to that level at the spa, but for incall you’re always paying the FS price, so it’s almost like even if you’re not quite feeling the need for FS right than it can feel like you ripped yourself off by not engaging in it (since you already paid for it type mentality). Here it’s not about how much you paid, but more along the lines of the principle of feeling you won’t be getting your money’s worth unless you go all the way.

9) Late Night: Spa’s are generally open for late night action (past 9pm to the AM), whereas the majority of Agency Incalls are closed by 9pm or 10pm.

Right now, I feel since the Spa’s reopened it’s like the Wild Wild West (in a bad way) out there in terms of Service, Quality, Pricing, in what you’re going to get. Outside of established girls, there is little to no control or oversight, esp for the new girls & some returning ones, as to what you’re in for. Too many with restrictive services, too much inflated and unreasonable price gouging, and not enough new and good selection versus days of the past, esp pre-covid era.

I couldn’t wait for the Spa’s reopening. My initial plan was I’m thinking I’d be doing a 90/10 split on visiting Spa/Incall once the Spa’s (my preferred choice) reopened but b/c the Spa’s have largely shit the bed in this new era, I’m finding myself going more and more to Incalls b/c the value and most importantly the “good-time” aspect is more prevalent there on most days. I’m still checking the Spa’s first and esp when I want something last min, but they’ve dropped the ball imo and lost business b/c of it. Talent and service are weak all round. I’ll go, I’ll spend, but I need what I’m looking for and that is not overpriced, restrictive, & transactional service.

… all gr8 points…

SPs require 2 much planning… like, gotta go Thursday 6pm… what if life intervenes? What if I got fucked Wed nite / Thurs morning… not really dying 4 it…if I cancel, blocked, geez…

But fuckng spas, even gd gals wearing mask throughout… boner killer & no chance Dfk …

… some Indy SPs u can just call & go same day, no mask… but mebbe she’s busy…

 

[Sybarite]

Thanks.

Quite the question you’ve given me (once I’ve actually given it some thought, lol). I mean I could write alot and I did write more than I excepted. Probably left out alot too, but here is how I see it to an extent.

It’s important to note that not all these Pro’s and Con’s are weighted equally. Some have much more value than others, and that will depend on the guy and his situation too.

Spa Pros:

1) Safety: I feel it’s safer for the clients and esp the girls. I personally feel more secure at the spa.

2) Spa environment: Can feel professional. Can feel somewhat classy (the higher tier ones). Can be like an Adult Disney World for Guy’s. Can feel like you’re spoiling yourself. Can feel like a true ‘escape’.

3) Ease of booking: Esp for last min, same-day, or walk-in.

4) Convenience: You know where it is and have a good idea of your commute. Some spa’s locations just work super-well for those with limited windows of opportunity.

5) Variety of girls: Easier to meet potential new candidates. Usually, more candidates entering the biz at this level vs Incall in the past imo.

6) Sense of Adventure: When you hit the jackpot here is just feels next level, whereas for Incalls it’s pretty much expected certain things will be offered. Plus, some of the incalls can just feel like seedy experiences when compared against some of the higher tier (or even avg level) spa’s.

7) New Recruits: B/f the stripper influx, I found many girls were doing this for the first-time w/ no experience in any adult industry. Getting to discover these gems as they explore and open up to their own sexual needs/desires can be mind-blowing. IE. The girl says no kissing and by the end of the session she’s so turned on you’re getting full DFK and even CIM. And I found this happens more in the Spa Industry.

8) No Screening BS like some agencies and independents require. Let alone EMT (huge dealbreaker for me personally).

9) Receptionists: Usually cute to hot. Can be great assets to have on your side - for referrals/info/screening. Plus, you get a nice visual b/f your session, almost like a visual appetizer b/f the main course comes in. They also provide a good sense of checks & balances when/if something goes wrong. This holds for the good ones at least, the poor ones are a big Con. So, they can lift up or bring down the experience to a large degree.

10) Being Pampered: Though this is getting worse and worse, some girls really can spoil you in the room. Whereas Incall is more likely about just doing the deed & can lack the buildup that is more likely to happen at the Spa.

11) The PARADE (need I say more? Lol)

Spa Cons:

1) Inconsistency in Service: Probably the biggest overall negative working against them. I’ve said it before, provide/offer DFK/BBBJ/FS in the least and pretend you want to be there, and you’re pretty much golden and guaranteed to do well as an attendant as long as you have the looks to back it up.

2) Inconsistency in Price: Too many hustlers. Too many outrageous tip asks. Too much delusion. Too many trying to milk the client dry (aka killing the Golden Goose). Too much greed w/ lack of business sense.

This is something the Spa itself needs to regulate better, b/c the price gougers slowly erode and damage the spa’s reputation and basically chase away clients from returning or push them toward SPs where price is pretty much locked in for what you’re getting.

3) I’ll call it the Wolfpack aspect: Basically, when you run into other clients (guys). I’m not a fan of entering the place and there are already dudes there waiting or hovering around or coming in behind me. Usually not a big deal, and the better spa’s filter this well as to minimize it. But it can still take away from the ‘mirage’ you’re trying to create for yourself. Personally, I don’t want/enjoy any social aspect w/ men around me when I Hobby.

4) False Advertising: Too many spa girls selling themselves on social media like if you see them you’ll experience the second coming of the Kama Sutra, yet all they offer is a false illusion meaning no kissing & only covered services aka a waste of time & money.

Incall Agency Pros:

1) Service: certain things are pretty much guaranteed. Compared to the spa scene, Incall service is MUCH more consistent and reliable. Not to say it’s perfect (always best to research), but miles ahead of the Spa’s.

2) Price: Generally, much better than the Spa’s. Usually, no surprises either. Much less sticker shock when dealing w/ agencies. At the spa you are at the attendant’s mercy so to speak nowadays w/ whatever number she decides to throw out.

3) Variety: though this has suffered since Covid. It’s a Pro for both I think.

4) Beds: Some guys just love having the bed vs the massage table. Plus some incalls have nice full length mirrors.

Incall Agency Cons:

1) Booking: compared to the spa, it’s extra work, time and effort. I’m not a fan of the whole texting back and forth. Some bookers are good, others not so good. Sometimes your waiting too long to get replies too.

2) Hotel/Condo/Incall: I’m not a fan of the hotel/condo scene. It feels too much like ‘Cloak & Dagger’ for me versus the Spa. Also, I know where the Spa’s are, for some agencies, they switch incalls and that can screw up my allotted time to get away, or it just turns into an inconvenient location.

3) Parking: generally free and much easier at the spa. For some incalls can be difficult and an extra charge to add.

4) Waiting to get the go-ahead & room #: This part I’ve really come to loathe. You arrive at the Incall, text to let them know and the waiting game begins.

5) Allotted Session Time: For the Spa’s I frequent shower time is completely separate from the session time. For incalls, your shower time is included in the total time you have booked. So basically this cuts your session time by an easy 5-10m if you take 2 showers (which I like to do). This is why I usually book for 40/45m sessions, so I don’t feel as rushed.

6) Start time: It seems that Agencies and girls in this environment are more clock-watchers. For me, my time begins when I enter the room, but apparently for some agencies they start the timer on you once they text you the room #.

7) When it goes South: I find when an incall session is not satisfying or, even worse, it’s poor to bad, it just seems to sting a lot more then when it happens at the Spa. Maybe b/c at the spa there are potential instant back-ups on premises you can book right away for recovery? Plus I found w/ incall it’s much more important to research who you are booking and more volatile trying out new, unknown girls.

8) Going All the Way: Sometimes I just want to be pampered and am very content w/DFK and BBBJ so I just ‘upgrade’ to that level at the spa, but for incall you’re always paying the FS price, so it’s almost like even if you’re not quite feeling the need for FS right than it can feel like you ripped yourself off by not engaging in it (since you already paid for it type mentality). Here it’s not about how much you paid, but more along the lines of the principle of feeling you won’t be getting your money’s worth unless you go all the way.

9) Late Night: Spa’s are generally open for late night action (past 9pm to the AM), whereas the majority of Agency Incalls are closed by 9pm or 10pm.

Right now, I feel since the Spa’s reopened it’s like the Wild Wild West (in a bad way) out there in terms of Service, Quality, Pricing, in what you’re going to get. Outside of established girls, there is little to no control or oversight, esp for the new girls & some returning ones, as to what you’re in for. Too many with restrictive services, too much inflated and unreasonable price gouging, and not enough new and good selection versus days of the past, esp pre-covid era.

I couldn’t wait for the Spa’s reopening. My initial plan was I’m thinking I’d be doing a 90/10 split on visiting Spa/Incall once the Spa’s (my preferred choice) reopened but b/c the Spa’s have largely shit the bed in this new era, I’m finding myself going more and more to Incalls b/c the value and most importantly the “good-time” aspect is more prevalent there on most days. I’m still checking the Spa’s first and esp when I want something last min, but they’ve dropped the ball imo and lost business b/c of it. Talent and service are weak all round. I’ll go, I’ll spend, but I need what I’m looking for and that is not overpriced, restrictive, & transactional service.

Well that was one of the greatest posts ever! Super comprehensive and really appreciated.

That's a really great synopsis and definitely mirrors my own thoughts and feelings about the various pros and cons of spas vs. sps - thanks so much PTown.