MP Pet Peeves: RANT Number 2: MILEAGE

[lucy lui]

Thank You for being supportive about Rant Number 1. You've only encouraged me to keep going! This rant will undoubtedly be more controversial. LOL

I will preface this by saying that any MPA who thinks a Russian release is "icky" is probably in the WRONG line of work. I believe there are minimum job requirements for any job.

Here's why I mention mileage as being a problem. (IMO)

Not long ago, I had a session with one of my regulars. (MPA A) About half way through, MPA A started apologizing, and mentioned her BF. She told me she loved him, and there were certain things she could only do with him.

Please understand I didn't ask her for any particular high mileage service, but we'd done Russian and Italian previously, which she suggested and enjoyed. She must have assumed I was ultimately expecting more, because I'd also seen MPA B at the same spa.

IE> MPA B had a reputation amongst the girls for offering different "services". MPA B never did with me so who knows.

I told MPA A I was having fun, enjoyed her company and that every girl I see is different. I would always respect her limits. She must have thought she was going to lose me for "not putting out."

Here's my point:

In the 5 years I've been going to MP's, IMO the business has become ALOT nastier.

When I started, getting a good release from a hot babe sliding all over you was the accepted norm. Yea, you could rub her pussy if you were a good boy and YMMV was in your favor. The first time I tried Italian and Russian I thought I'd died and gone to heaven

Now all of the above is a GIVEN. Any MPA who doesn't offer the above plus DATY is seen as restrictive. IMO BLS, BBBJ and FS are much more prevelent now.

A.) I'm not naive enough to think that FS wasn't happening back then, but I believe the smaller number of MPA's offering it were generally more selective, and using protection.

B.) I'm not going to be a hypocrit and say I don't enjoy having fun. I certainly do, but like the Gentlemen on the board everything I do is consensual, and limits are respected. Not every girl allows everything and that's fine by me.

Here are my concerns:

1.) I've heard stories of MPA's being encouraged by OWNERS to perform pussyslides regularly. I would like to point MP owners in the following direction.

http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/eng/lp/lo/ohs/publications/4.shtml

To me, COERCION by clients or owners is a HUGE no no. Ultimately it's still the MPA's body.

2.) If we're all doing unprotected high risk activities, sooner or later that shit will catch up with us. My Dad was a GP and ran a student health center at one of the universities. Alot more STD's go around than we'd care to think about.

I don't wish to catch something because an MPA felt she had to pussyslide with the 3 guys ahead of me.

3.) If MPA's feel compelled to "perform" in order to keep clients, ultimately that leads to many negative coping strategies. I'm talking about drug and alcohol abuse, which is very common.

Anyway, let's watch our health, coz we share the same beautiful ladies!

Rant number 2 over and done. Thank You.

 

[mzjilly]

As always Sir IL, you nail them on the head...(too many puns in one sentance)

From our side of it....

You have to look at why MPA B is known for things...look at the root, the source...I always take a guy's claim of BJ/FS/etc as bull...because in some ways he's trying to convince me its ok to do it. I also have to look at the underlying reasons if it comes from a girl...why? jealousy? client claim? fact?...I dont think girls should be known for bad, only for good. Because if the rumour is true, she shouldnt be in an MP, PERIOD.

I agree about your restrictive comment, its become the norm.

I know owners that encourage these things. Some places ae well known for that, but some others you wouldnt think it to be true. Ahhh the benefits of training...the good ol' days!

Everyone copes in different ways. I tell girls, dont do anything that keeps you from sleeping at night! If you cant be an escort, DONT. If you dont like DATY, DONT. If you arent into fetishes, duos, monkeys, DONT. At the end of the day, give what you can...as Dr Phil says...whats it costing you? If the price is costing you your health/sanity/addictions...then the price is too high!!

its up to us to keep clients and eachother safe ladies. Play smart, Play safe!

 

[trd93]

I was so eager to see your Rant #2 and I'm not disappointed.

But, most important, thank you for bringing point #1 to everyone's attention. I am sure this will be a wake up call for those very few SPA owners as well as our beautiful angels who may not be aware of our laws.


P.S. Darn, I die for this country anytime.

 

[Colin]

Good job IL. Aside from being a ton 'o fun, this is a business arrangement built on trust and respect - those are both 2-way streets. If I suspected any coersion on the part of an owner I would be outta there as a customer so fast. As far as coersion on my part....I'm just a big teddy bear...couldn't happen!

Monkeys MPA2??

 

[smills0205]

LOL Monkeys...it was a good one eh...

As for suspecting...YOU"D NEVER SUSPECT ... maybe a place or 2 known for that...ahemmm....think we all know which one Im reffering to, other places that have owners like that are some well reviewed spas, reputable even and you'd never know what goes on behind the scenes.

 

[scottmel83]

Thanks for your input. Wait til you see Rant Number 3: JEALOUSY aka MIND FUCK

LOL




I agree with avisionary. MONKEYS?!

 

[Shido42]

Hey I've heard it all! No monkey's were harmed in the writing of this post!

 

[Answer King]

But...were any spanked? (sorry to screw up your thread IL)

 

[Pompal 09.]

It never occurred to me that BLS, BBBJ and FS are more prevalent
today than it used to be in the world of MPs until I read Rant #2 referred to
in this post. I used to think at least in the established businesses such as
the likes of Allure, SRM and HFH what happened inside the rooms were
pretty much within the norm. I notice these high-end spas
all charge fees comparable to the rates charged by SPs in general. But
I believe their success is more of an indication of the demand for the kind
of services they offer which to many hobbyists are more sensual
and intimate in nature not withstanding its restrictions.

I am sure many MPAs have encountered the type of clients
trying to push the boundary between MPA and SP. From the many
MPAs I got to know well in 15+ years of hobbying
it doesn't take the toughest MPA to
handle clients acting like assholes. I think an incident such
as a client pushing for a pussyslide or BBBJ through coercion
successfully must be an extreme rarity if it ever occurred.

If anything I believe this Rant#2 is more likely to instigate
certain massageplanet.netites to give a try to force their MPAs into performing
forbidden services. Certainly there are ways to pressure a MPA against
her will without breaking the law.

 

[in love with a Sweede]

Your concern is noted and I thought about that. I believe the "certain massageplanet.netites" in question already exchange this information via PM.

IE> They probably know their chances of walking in off the street and asking for forbidden services will be hit or miss.

I know not everybody will agree with the content of Rant # 2. Some may question my motivations. I can assure you it's just to get people THINKING. Sometimes things aren't as simple as they would appear at first glance.

Thanks for your feedback!

 

[ahhao]

I have been hobbying several years and never approached an MPA with that kind of extra milage, the most I've received is some kitty play. Thats why they must love me when I go. Actually I did get offered everything once but it was hole of a place and I was just horny. But If I wanted more I would see an SP its safer.
My todo list is to see MPA2 she seems like a great time all safe.

 

[Pompal 09.]

I can't even chop this into quotes...ITS ALL JUST BRILLIANT!

 

[Tammie]

I think that the 'increase' that we are seeing in higher mileage is more the result of so many of the lower end spas closing. Five years ago, it seemed like there were MPs everywhere. Just think of how many spas in North York have disappeared. Those places were 'here today, closed tomorrow', as were the MPAs that worked there, and because they could not compete with reputable spas (HFH, Allure, SRM, Plush, etc.), they had no choice but to offer 'more'. Now that the majority of those places are gone, those who frequented them visit reputable spas expecting the mileage they used to get a hole-in-the-walls. This has somewhat created an 'arms race' in which MPs, and their staffs, are trying to offer the most; whether that be extras, decor, cosmetic surgery, etc. Not defending this trend in any way, but as many have said before, when an MP or MPA has nothing to offer in term of massage services, they resort to extra-extras in order to stay 'competetive'. I used to go to a certain spa on Milivan years ago if I wanted a nubian fix, and wanted more than one choice of lady. However, I stopped going years ago, when it seemed as if every attendant walked in, asked me what I wanted (hinting at 'extras'), and seemed perplexed when I only seemed to want a 'standard' service. Actually, I started to feel guilty going there. The girls expected to do 'extras' and to be compensated as if they were a VIP courtesean, while I was at an MP looking for MP services.

There's my contribution to this rant.

BTW, good topic IL. Although there may be a split here regarding who agrees with you and who doesn't, it's good to know that when I decline certain services I'm not the only one.

 

[AVALON]

If anything, more milage is a good thing. I'm surprised there's a thread wanting the MPA's to do less. The trend in the sex business is towards more milage. If you want less milage, there's plenty of providers though that are willing to accomodate you.

Actually, now that i think of it, i think i understand your point. i recall going to cannonball, and was getting dances at $20 per song, happy with just dances. the girl kept pushing me for extras, and when i said, "no, dances are just fine", she walked away within 2 songs, literally walked away when she could have made a couple hundred from me just to dance. I guess she wanted to make the two bills with her pussy, within a song or two.

 

[PROTEA]

I think a couple of guys here missed IL's point. Behind his rant, I think he is gallantly looking out for the ladies. This is something I consistently notice about IL since day one I was on the Board. He has a soft spot for our playmates. He cares. May be at times too much. His main point is coercion/pressure from the MP owners on the girls and what might be the possible toxic outcome. Not coercion from clients. I think there is changing dynamics in the market place in recent years. Look at the SP side. A few years back, things tend to be a lot more save. Now, BBBJ, DFK is almost basic, escalting into BBBJCIM, etc. I think that is a function of the competitve dynamics at work. And perhaps not a healthy (pun intended) thing for everybody concerned.
Another good topic, IL.

 

[Lady M]

MPAs are big girls.. they can take care of themselves...working for a bad Spa owner? leave...they can always leave.

Theres bad shit waiting around the corner for all of us....its the decisions we make that make all the difference.

 

[Pompal 09.]

I hear ya. They just don't get it.

 

[lark]

very good post
and from my own observations of MPAs and their number of "regular" clients (or lack there-of): an accurate assessment of what type of girl finds success in this line of work....

 

[Pompal 09.]

This hits the nail on the head, you and they all have a choice of who to visit and who to work for. If you lie with dogs you rise with flea's.

 

[Jesslovesbritni]

Thank You for understanding my twisted sense of humor