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Hello everyone! Im so glad I stumbled across this forum! Like most people on here- Im desperate for help and advice.

Im 36, and since last August, Ive been suffering from numbness and pins and needles in both hands. A few weeks later I started to get some neck pain although nothing severe. After many upsetting visits to the GP ( who swore I was suffering from depression and it was all in my head!) I self referred to physio who then , after a few weeks unsuccessful treatment, sent me for an MRi. after weeks of allsorts of theories ( carpal tunnel etc) Ive now discovered I have bulging discs in my neck, thoracic and lumbar regions ( have awful sciatica too).
Ive also been seeing a chiropracter for 2 months but nothing has improved.

The reason Im so destroyed over this is because Im a professional artist, My hands seem to be getting worse with permanent pins and needles. I dont really have much neck pain although they reckon the cervical disc is the culprit. I get a lot of pain in the thoracic and lumbar area though.

Im desperate not to have surgery- is there anyone out there who has suffered anything similar and has a story to tell? They say they are just going to keep their eye on me but my main concern is permanent damage to my hands- they are my life!

Im so upset and cant face thinking about what might happen. Is there anyone who can please help?

Thanks....sorry to moan!

Kathy x
 
Hi there

Sorry to hear of your problems.

may I suggest that you have a look at the Bowen technique as a gentle hands-on therapy which may be helpful to you.

There is a forum on this site but also try [link=http://www.bowtech.com]www.bowtech.com[/link] and read some of the information on this site or just put Bowen Technique into the search engine and have a read.

I must confess here that, as a Bowen therapist, I am biased, but also find that Bowen can help people with many difficult to resolve problems.

Best wishes

JJ
 
Hi Katink,

It seems that you have dislocated and / or pinched nerves in you neck, back and possibly in your shoulders.

What I would suggest to you, is to see an excelent Massage Therapist and tell him / her what you are going through and he / she will help you quite a bit. I am not sure that they will relieve all of your problems as it requires special skills to reset dislocated and / pinched nerves.

Good Luck

Joe
 
I too have those symptoms and I insisted on seeing a orthopod for a second opinion, he thinks I have a compressed cord because of a displaced C7 in my neck. If it is they can fix it by surgery. I am having a MRI today.

I hope they do surgery as I think not having it treated could be a major problem if I get shunted in the car, whip lash injury with a dodgy neck is worrying. So Do have surgery if its offered.

You have to insist to get what you want, the choice of hospitals is up to you. I asked for a proper orthopaedic hospital referal, which I got.

If I need surgery it will be a neurosurgeon that will do it.
 
Hello Caringsoul,

Surgery should be the last thing on your mind. A compressed cord is a compressed nerve which is a pinched and / or a dislocated nerve and you should be seeing an Alternate way such as Massage Therapist, Chiro, Osteopath, etc. before going to the extreme.

I have resetted many dislocated and / or pinched nerves and it is easy if you know what you are doing and there is no danger. If you check me out, you will see that I am telling you the truth.

Good Luck

Joe
 
Thanks Joe, I will see results of the MRI first and see what consultant says.

Displaced C7 in my neck may be dodgy for any manipulation?
 
Thankyou so much everyone for your replies.
Painless Joe- Im really interested in your technique...massage isnt something Id thought about as I assumed this was too far gone to have any effect. I have to admit though- my 15 or so visits to a chiropracter really isnt doing much at all, yet Im too scared to not have any treatment at all!
Would a massage therapist know how to work around disc problems? Im a little worried they could do more harm!

Thanks for the help- it sounds really promising and Ill give anything a try rather than have surgery at the moment!

Kathy
 
Hello Kathy,

Good to hear that you will go through Alternative Medicine first before goingfor an operation. I know you are suffering as it is very painful what you have and Iam with you on this.

As for the Massage Therapist, you should be looking for an experience one and if not too shy, try a man first as they have strong hands but if you find a woman who is a bit strong, give her a try. Do not be affraid to question the Massage Therapist on anything you want to know and they will give you an answer regarless. Massage Therapists work the lymphatic and blood circulatory systems, the muscles, looseling the nerves and the skin,helping to loose some weightat the sametime. Trust me on this as it will help you. He or she should let you know as to the visits ie: once a week, twice a week, once every two weeks, etc.. You will feel a big difference after the first session and a bigger one after the second session.

Please, keep us to date on your treatments / recovery.

Good Luck

Joe
 
Hi Katink

I had the same problem as you. In the end I lost most of the feeling in my right hand and a great deal in my left.

It was found that one of my discs had collapsed and was blocking the spinal fluid moving easily.

I ended up having the disc removed and a cage inserted into my neck. I tried everything before going for surgery as an holistic therapist myself, but nothing gave me the feeling back in my hands until I had the op. Even then I still can't feel the ends of my fingers in my right hand through nerve damage, but can now write again (I am left handed)and don't drop things all the time.

By all means try every avenue going, but don't write off the surgery option however dangerous it can be.
 
Yes I agree, I wont consider alternatives for me till I know fully what the MRI scan shows.
If the consultant says manipulation or chiropratie will manipulate the disc back then I will have a go, but I personally dont think he will.
 
Hi Antari

Im so sorry youve suffered the same problem- horrid isnt it? Im reluctantly trying to admit to myself that surgery may be the only option I have left- Im just so terrified. I wondered if you would mind pleasetelling me a few things about it...how long you were in hospital, the recovery time etc? It would really help a lot! I also wondered how long you had the problem initially, before you started to lose the feeling in your hands? Im very worried I wont ever get it back- being an artist its a matter of life and death for me sadly.

Thanks for your help

Kathy x
 
Hi Katink
Just as a brake, tyre and exhaust specialist garage is likely to recommend new brakes, tyres and exhaust, a surgeon will always recommend the operation. The National Institute for Clinical Excellence (NICE, aw how cute,) the International Journal for Clinicians recommends exploring all avenues of โ€œconservativeโ€ treatment before recommending Cervical Spinal Fusion/ Discectomy.
I am not saying surgery is the wrong choice for you. Think carefully before making the decision to take this route.
 
You may find the following book interesting:

Dr. [link=http://www.answers.com/topic/john-e-sarno]John E. Sarno[/link]- Healing Back Pain: The Mind-Body Connection (ISBN 0-446-39230-8)
 
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    โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅsexy hot Latino ๐ŸŒนViennese ๐ŸŒนKorean ๐ŸŒนgirls working at Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ Nu Spring Spa Unit 7, 15 Karachi Dr Markham, ON L3S 0B5 ๐Ÿ“ž416-800-4088 text 416-669-8508
  34. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Angela ๐Ÿ”ฅ is here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ Angela is a Beautiful & Petite Young Chinese Girl ๐Ÿ’‹ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’„ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  35. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Kelly ,New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Baby ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  36. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  37. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐Ÿ˜welcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800๏ผŒopen10 to10.we have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,๐Ÿ’„Mina is very friendly nice girl,providing deep tissue massage and nice body slide ๐Ÿ’„ new girl Mimi very good looking,big breasted service queen,girl friend experience,๐Ÿ’„Amy is long hair Vietnamese girl,open maid,she can do everything you want,must try,๐Ÿท๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿ‘call416-5000-800๐Ÿ’„
  38. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Tiana & Nayla are in today ๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„ Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ’„Tiana is a Beautiful Jamaican. Talented ๐Ÿ’‹Very Sexyโ€ฆ ๐Ÿ‘ Nayla is a Tall, Young, Beautiful & Curvy Spanish Girl. ๐Ÿ’‹ All Our Girls Provide Lots of E X T R A S & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open from 8am til Late Everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  39. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธIvy๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธBrandyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  40. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, ELLA & HELLEN. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  41. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa, : HOLLY (11am-9pm) : is a young, pretty, slim & busty yoga instructor from Vietnam, standing 5โ€™4โ€ with C Cups. She has top services, bbbj ,cim, pussy slide, 69, SF2, water flute. Donโ€™t miss out! JULIA from Philippines, young girl, busty, E cup, curvy short body, cute face
  42. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Sami Gorgeous Model Type Vietnamese School Girl She is 5โ€™ 2โ€ tall, 98 Lbs With D Cup Melons Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl โ€จGFE, BBbj, DFK in her menu โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  43. See You Health Center:
    Lin Very Young, Petiteโ€จVietnamese Studentโ€จWith Spicy Slim Bodyโ€จ5โ€™ 1โ€, 100 lbs Blonde Hairโ€จGreat BBJ, CIM Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  44. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality w
  45. Forever Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’Ž๐Ÿ’Ž๐Ÿ’Ž We provide the BEST TABLE SHOWER IN TOWN: Clean room with reliable warm shower nozzle ๐Ÿ’Ž Ruby & Lisa (new) and Cindy are available ๐Ÿ’Ž 2190 Warden ๐Ÿ’Ž 416-800-7887 ๐Ÿ’Ž
  46. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Rose๐ŸŒน - A sexy new addition to our lin
  47. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž Monday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY & Tiny Spinner LALA CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. Tiny LALA is an unbelievably good Superstar SPINNER, only 5โ€™2โ€ and 95 pounds beautiful face
  48. ASPA:
    ๐— ๐—ข๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is slim and attractive
  49. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Lisa, Ruby & Cindy. Lisa is a young, slim, friendly & very beautiful Vietnamese beauty with a nice body, nice 34D boobs, slim waist, impressive booty, nice massage, great services. RUBY is Singaporean, very slim, petite & sexy, speaks English well, & has great services.
  50. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute Lily 25โ€™s with curive body open mind and young sweet slime Yuki 30โ€™s open mind , young fun Ivy 30โ€™s with big buttocks 34 DD and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
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