Spanish 101

[Alessandro]

Anyone interested in getting the Pimsleur Program all 3 levels-- PM me
Cheap

 

[Kitty L]

GO GET EM TIGER!!!

 

[AdminLady]

All excellent info. Thanks much.

 

[zenob8687]

When I negotiate with a SG, I do it swifty. I approach her and whisper in her ear "Es cien OK?" If she replies "Si" we instantly go into her associated hotel and I get a session that generally involves her keeping her top on, sex in one position (usually missionary). Since I rarely cum while wearing a condom, my sessions mostly end with a hand job, which I ask for towards the end of the session (but hopefully before the first knock) "Feenish con mano?".

But I would guess, from my own experiences, that only somewhere between 10% to 20% of SGs in TJ will accept 100 pesos ($9 equivalent) for a basic session from an Americano. However, making that initial low offer sets the table well for negotiations. SGs aren't insulted by a 100 pesos offer since it is a common fee paid by Mexican nationals. The very few SGs that "ACTED" insulted I could count using the fingers on only one hand.

Most that decline my initial lowball offer will give a counter offer, usually requesting $20. I will generally nod (for her wallmates to see) but will again whisper my counter offer in her ear... "Sin ropa, tres posiciones y sexo oral es OK por dos cientos pesos". It is important to whisper low enough so that her neighbors cannot hear - then she will be more inclined to accept an offer that might be considered low. With this counter offer I close with about half of the great lookers and nearly all of the SGs that have lesser appearances.

Nearly all of the costliest SGs will accept 250p to 300p ($23 to $27 equivalent) for this "full service" request.

I've been to both VivaMex and Azteca. I prefer VivaMex.

 

[boo7]

All I need is the translation for a cherry on top(kidding). Can anyone else provide the current price of extras on street girls? I am trying to get as much mileage(carnal) on the trip as possible. I am hoping it will be a great week. I will double the number of women I have slept with in my life this week at least.

Any recomendations on non-sexual?/sensual massage spots?
I have heard recomendations for two:
Azteca and Vivamex.

Thanks all.

 

[Maya Issa]

Excellent Supergato, Thank you.

Thats the stuff not found on any Spanish language CD's. Maybe there is money to be made on a Monger spanish CD HAHA

 

[diamonds24]

The basic price the street girl offers is for one positioned, clothed, sometimes a covered BJ. Anything else is extra. Sometimes kissing/fondling/sucking breasts are not included in the base price. You should negotiate for it before you get to the room. Others here may let you know the going rate since I deal mostly with bar girls when I'm in TJ. However, the street girls in the alley are a lot like the door girls of Nuevo Laredo and Reynosa and their pricing/service levels are similar.

So you will need to know some spanish to get more than what the girls will give you for $15-20.

Sexo completo = this means complete sex and the implication is a bj and sex until you pop or you run out of time.

Sin ropa = without clothes
Sexo oral = oral sex
Sexo oral sin condَn = oral sex without condom
Muchas posiciones = many positions
Besos con lengua = kisses with tongue [good luck with that. many won't, and and for those who do many have really stanky breath. Others will have industrial strength mouthwash that should kill anything. Try not to think about how many cocks have been in her mouth.]
Queiro venir en tu boca = I want to come in your mouth [this is not standard fare either]
Sexo anal = Anal sex [many won't go there, those that do will definitely want additional money]

 

[Wiings]

I will be there for 6 days, bringin $500 and hoping to get as many satisfying trips out of it as I can. Including one or two massages.

Cheers

 

[JAMES]

Mongers,

Thanks for the detailed responses. I am not as worried about delaing with the bar girls as much as the street girls. I have just read that the street girls once you get them in the hotel will not provide 100% or not undress durring bj etc. I just want to know how to say multiple positions, bj, dfk?, anal? what is your experience on the last two? If a girl is willing to DFK is it safe? What pereceneforum.xxxe of girls will even go for anal.


Thanks guys

 

[<3~??~<3]

Bzzzzt. You just said, "I am you are/he is/she is Tony." There are two verbs in Spanish meaning "to be" and that sentence had both.

Both Ser (Soy, Eres, Es, Somos, Son) and Estar (Estoy, Estas, Esta, Estamos, Estan) are verbs that mean "to be". The difference is Estar tends to be "temporary" and Ser is "permanent". "Estoy boracho" means "I am drunk" indicating it is a temporary condition. You will eventually sober up. Estar also is used with location. "Estamos en Mexico" means "we are in Mexico."

"Soy Tony" means "I am Tony." Because your name is a permanent condition. You will always be Tony. It is your name. It is permanent. You also always use Ser when talking about time (even though could be considered temporary). So you'd say "Es la una" to say "It is one o'clock" or "Son las dos" for "It is two o'clock" (or any other time >1).

The other way to tell someone your name is "Me llamo Tony." Literally, that means "I call myself Tony" and it follows the same structure as the question "؟Como se llama?" which is roughly "What do you call yourself?"

It sounds complicated if you've not studied any Spanish at all, but the good news is once you understand how the verbs, nouns and adjectives work in Spanish is is pretty consistent. Most verbs conjugate the same way and but there are a few irregular verbs that you just need to memorize. Spanish also differs from English in that there is the concept of familiar and formal verbs. ؟Como se llama? is the formal way of asking someone their name. ؟Como te llamas?" is the familiar. Usually, you start with the formal and once you get to know someone, the familiar is used. It is sort of like calling someone "sir" versus "dude". In Mexico, generally, you can refer to those younger than you with the familiar -- especially in situations like the bars of TJ, but you show respect for older people by always using the formal. If you're dealing with cops or other authority figures, always use the formal.

The other good news is most of the language lessons start with the converstational "hi, how are you?" "where are you from type?" dialog and you don't need to get into irregular verbs, posessive or reflexive verbs and all that other stuff. You can also find podcasts online with introductory Spanish phrases.

You can google phrases like "Mexican Spanish phrases" or variations to find some of the slang terms and there are other monger boards that have sections on cover vocabulary for the monger in detail. Not sure how mpnet likes external links, but this page has a list of phrases that might come in handy in talking to chicas in TJ [except the payment terms, as it is a page about romantic phrases] http://www.learn-spanish.com.mx/spanish-phrases/romantic-spanish-phrases/

You need to be careful using slang terms on two fronts: 1) it might be slang for another country and not familiar to Mexicans or 2) it might be really offensive (even to a working girl). In the beginning err on the side of being clinical in body parts versus using slang. There is also some words like "leche" which mean "milk" in every day conversation, but it means spoo when you're in bed with a chica. You don't want to freak out if you see massageplanete con leche on the breakfast menu, and if the chica is asking for leche in the room, she doesn't want you to run down to the Oxxo for a carton of milk.

Like Fireballs said, all but the girls who just got off the bus from the country will know a little English and will ask you your name, where you're from, etc. The may not have a clue how you answer, just as you may not understand them if they answer in Spanish. They'll know the basics "sucky fucky" and condom [condَn in Spanish] use. No means no in both languages. "Sucky no condَn?" will get your request across. And the girls will know numbers, of course. A good mesero [remember to tip] can also act as translator to close the deal with the girl. The girls at Adelita, Chicago Club and Hong Kong deal with Americans (Canadians and others from around the world) who don't speak a word of Spanish OR English. Some of the girls speak English really well. In other words, enjoy yourself and don't worry about the language barrier. Sex is the international language.

I've found in my travels anywhere in the world, the people do appreciate you at least try to speak their language, if nothing more than being polite like "hello" "goodbye" "thank you" "excuse me".

You can go to school for years and not learn mongering Spanish you might pick up in a few weekends in Mexico. They didn't teach me slang terms for body parts at school. I use the sessions with the girls to improve my Spanish skills both when I'm having a drink and talking about whatever, and in the bedroom. I will point to a body part and ask her how to say the word in Spanish. Many of the girls want to learn a little English too so it can be a playful game. She'll better her marketing skills knowing US slang for what her customers want.

 

[snow]

I love the saying- " CHICA LA VIDA ALEGRA" ; girl who;s life is music+party you say a lot about em and It breaks down the "whore" label....u ?

 

[jyu_bonk]

99zeros, thats a common question and good one for all the non spanish speaking mongers. It always help to know some phrases in a foreign language.
Fireballs has given you broad based advice which will help you in general.

Apart from that, I am just taking this opportunity "to educate" the rest of the Mongers like Brant, SMD, Burt, Sampson et all, so that they become "good" mongers

Common phrases in Spanish. I WOULD REQUEST THE SPANISH SPEAKING MONGERS To assist with this. I can think of the firebrand Amigomio and others who are the Mexican cultural sophisticates. What we need here is plain simple spanish. We need to put in English like spelling so pronunciation is easlier. Please give the easier and local TJ version of Spanish. I stand to be corrected below. Pronunciation is the biggest challenge in Spanish or any language

1. What is your name : Como Se llama, pronounce (Como say yama)
My name is Tony: Estoy Es Toneee

2. How are you ? Como Estas
I am fine or very fine: Bien or Muy Bien (Beeane or Moooy Beeane)

Come on guys get on with more and lets practicse some Spanish, the new generation language !

 

[some half blood]

I'm not sure of a good Spanish guide. I would just suggest going to the bookstore and picking the one you like best. I understand Pimsleur Spanish is pretty good where they give you 30 recorded lessons to follow without the drills. You could download a few lessons off Limewire or one of those music downloading free services, and if you like it you can buy it from Ebay or some place like that.

It's always nice to know as much Spanish as possible, but really it's not necessary. Many of the waiters, taxi drivers, TJ cops, and especially hotel clerks speak English. A good many sex workers also speak at least a little English, and if your that concerned you can always ask a waiter in the bar to find you a English speaking chica, and most will gladly do it for a small tip of your buying a drink for her, and tipping him. Adelitas, Chicago Club, and Hong Kong will at least have a few girls who speak at least fair English, but again it's not necessary.

And for SGs ( street girls) who charge $20 dollars to start, you don't need to speak Spanish at all. Either you or she will say "fucky-sucky" and upstairs you go. Of course it's going to get a little tricky when you want more services and she wants $10 more You might just learn to count 100 in Spanish and you'll be OK, you could even skip the in between numbers and could to 100 by 10s if your in a hurry, and you'll be ok.

But again you really don't need to know any Spanish to have a good time in TJ, but since your visiting it's also good to study the language, but don't sweat it if you don't learn too much.

Alta Vista is also great for reading different languages including Spanish and you can practice on it.

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

 

[pFREDq]

Hola!

I will making my cherry trip to TJ on January 13th. I will be there on business for the week, and hope to make three trips while I am there.

I am sure that this comes up once a week here, but can someone point me to a quality guide to the spanish language for the purposes of dealing with club girls and street girls. I have read time and time again to demand what you expect up front, but lack the ability in Spanish.

I appreaciate any help.

~99Zeros