SRM Naturals

[lynne]

With all the buzz lately about plastic surgery, I have been trying to hold my tongue for fear of backlash from long established massageplanet.netites. And then I laughed so hard at myself for even being concerned with whether all these dudes would "accept me" or not. LOL

Is this what women go through on a daily basis? The fear of being judged by people who don't mean squat in their lives?

I have been favouring SRM for some time now, I am an all natural body lover, and I used to find natural girls at many spas. Now a days I am noticing that most of the "top" spas are employing majority enhanced girls. While the lower end spas seem to have more naturals. This does not make any sense to me what so ever. I understand that boobs are expensive and that may be why the lower end spa girls cannot afford them. What I don't get is why the higher end spa clientele does not appreciate natural girls. In my ignorance, I figured that the fake tit low life perverts (no offense of course ) would be cheap and visit only the B, C level spas.

I thought that the distingushed gentelmen like myself (I didn't say handsome, but wise yes) appreciated a natural girl who has the confidence in herself to be a good MPA without slicing and dicing. But the top spa natural girls (who are getting more scarce these days) must be augmenting due to the pressure of the demand on their spa by the fake tit low life doesn't give a hoot if the girl dies on the operating table perverts.

One of my all time faves told me that whenever a client suggests that she get fake tits, she suggests right back to him that he needs a penile extension! Priceless

 

[g_pierce95]

ALL opinions are Welcome! There are guys on the board I don't agree much with, but I enjoy reading their posts. They open my mind to different possibilities. I'm surprised we haven't heard more from the "I Love Big Plastic Tits" Brigade pipe up in these threads. I'd love to hear their opinion. To me, the bottom line is respect; for the MPA's, for other clients and for ourselves.




The one thing I can tell you categorically is that it's NOT MP Management pressuring these girls into surgery. I've spoken to Kayla @ HFH, Joy @ SRM and Tiana @ S9/Platinum on this very subject. Without putting words in their mouths, they all look for attractive, polite & friendly girls who'll treat their clients well. They know that it's primarily personality and positive attitude that make an MPA successful.

One of the S9 girls was telling me she was thinking about plastic tits, and Tiana was advising her against it. (I knew there was a reason I think Tiana is so HOT. LOL.) The MPA in question is beautiful, with a hot little body and pretty face. I told this MPA exactly WHY I think she's attractive, both outside AND inside.

I honestly believe that the pressure for large breasts is a self induced problem on the part of MPA's. There's a myth that all guys like large breasts, and it's perpetuated by WOMEN.

It's like some guys believing they have to have a body builder's physique in order to attract women... and spend hours in the gym trying to get it.

...but have these guys ever actually asked WOMEN their opinion? If he was "height and weight proportional" with some decent clothes, grooming and self confidence he WILL attract women.

Sometimes as human beings we only see our own perceived flaws and it's kind of sad. I had to train myself to say "Thank You" when an MPA told me she found me attractive. I only saw the middle aged guy in the mirror.

 

[CuteLittleMama]

LOL ... LOL .... Priceless indeed!

 

[Pippin]

INDN_LOVER, and you believe them all???

We are talking about $ here! This is a multi-million dollar business that keeps growing .... growing .... and growing! Every day someone pops up with a new MP somewhere in this country. At the same rate they go down too. The big ones take over the little ones or crush them by stealing their popular girls.

How many hours any one of us could walk with those +10" high hill shoes?!!!

These girls are young but wait couple of years and see what happens to their backs / legs. I've seen girls come to my room asking me if it would be OK to remove their shoes. I've met girls who complain about pain around their knees due to walking with those shoes long hours.

..."I hate my manager....he / she tells us clients love us more if we wear high hill shoes...."

Oh, yeah baby. We love you more because our own wives or girlfriends who we truly love them, they don't wanna do this for us!

It's sad but true that neither the owners or clients ever want to see a girl walk into our room with running shoes!

.....and it's sad but true that neither owners or MOST clients prefer girls with small boobs!


What-ever-it-takes-to-make-$.

P.S. I love Tia too but who's that angel in front desk at S9 who shows up time to time? She's not an MPA sadly....breaks my heart!!!

 

[tessahcamille]

she used to be.

 

[solomon]

I like some naturals and I like some nice fakes that look good. I have a mix of favourites, and usually the natural / plastic thing is far down the list as for why I decide to repeat. And I'm not going to deny the arms race, and some of the silliness that involves. But we don't know the reasons for everybody, and this waving the brush over all is pretty silly

This is a business. Should a nice girl who is practicaly purely flat (and I'm not talking B's.. I'm talking flat), restrict herself to a shady spa, or invest in something that actually allows her to work somewhere better and gives her some confidence. This might be an exception, but I think this waving the brush over everybody that makes this investment without knowing the reason is just a little silly. After all we as men, also make "rational" decisions in our lives, purely because of money and confidence.

 

[Chris L]

I wish you hadnt seperated this into 2 threads...

IL has made this a hot topic lately, so I started pick the brains of colleagues, friends, and clients...Part of what I heard stunned me! Other parts I thought were sad. And some just plain not true.

Being that I dont work at a plastic paradise, Im somewhat sheltered to this side of the industry as a whole. And considering that I am quite successful as an MPA, have a great reputation, and the-like...I dont see any need for insessant enhancements. Sure the odd girl gets a bad nose fixed, or a few with subbtle implants...but some of this is just so Joan Rivers its scary! I wish I could sit all of them in a room and tell them not only are they beautiful already, but the 90's Pam Anderson look is soooo passe!!

A discussion evolved into a chat about a 22yr old MPA at a top spa...who has had tits done 3 times, lips, nose, lipo, and now BUTT IMPLANTS! And to my suprise...its the 'it' thing to have done now!!! WTF?!?!?! And its not legal in Canada! These girls are flying to shady countries to have this shit done!! AT 22!!!

Now, I agree that women are harder on women And that we and the media contribute HUGE to this phenomenon...but massageplanet.net is media too!! And I have read many a post with "MPA XYZ is back...with her new enhancements!!" And a flock of guys rush in to see them/her. Well any girl on shift that day seeing MPA XYZ booked solid would naturally think "Should I get my tits done too?"

I strongly object to this kind of rationale...any time a friend has wanted to go under the knife, I have not only strongly advised against it, but made a point of discussing the future with them. I get that stripper-esque view about competition, trends, etc...But is your life goal to be on a pole? or on a table? Massage should be a stepping stone...So....what happens when you are 35, 45, 65??? When you arent MPA-ing anymore, can you afford to fix a breast rupture? Can you afford to have them redone every 10 yrs? Is there cancer in your family? If your lips look like fishlips at 25, what on earth will they be at 40!!? The butt thing I cant think of one reason why thats a good idea! And many have gone very wrong! YUCK! How would you ever get a 9-5 job if look like a porn star?

All of this stuff IL has brought up lately is just so far out of hand. And although many factors perpetuate that, ITS UP TO US AS A WHOLE to fix it! What ever happened to girls keeping their moon-light job a secret? surely your friends and family know something is up when you morph into a plastic princess. What ever happened to mutual respect and non-competitive atmospheres?

This job should be get in, get educated, get some $ together, and GET OUT! This is not a career with longevity! Even Hollywood is out of hand! Cant a girl learn lessons from the likes of Pam Anderson, Joan Rivers, Anna-Nicole Smith, Tara Reid...

Girls...you were hired because you had the whole package...chopping up that package does not fill the void. it wont take away insecurities. it wont stop the 'new girl' from being busy for a few weeks. it wont stop 'your clients' from going to check out other girls. So, what can keep you competitive without surgery, cattiness, and 10" heels??? YOUR MIND!!!

A new girl is just that...NEW! She is learning, doesnt know half the moves/knowledge you know. A guy might rush in to see her...greet him, hug him, and thank him for being loyal to your spa. Wish him well as he tests the new waters. I'd rather a guy see lots of girls where I work, than take his business elsewhere. I'd put my $ and your surgery $ on one simple fact....if he leaves with the same feeling as he does when he sees you, thats good for everyone business. And if he leaves feeling like something was missing, he will be back in to see you as soon as $ allows!! Never make him feel guilty. Dare I even say recommend new girls!!! Show him how secure you are, that sharing is caring!!!!

And then tuck your out-of-this-world plastic dreams under the rug...WE LOVE YOU JUST THE WAY YOU ARE!!!! xoxoxoxox

 

[Ox CHERRYLiCiOUS* xO]

You're missing one little piece....Some guys like flat model types...WHY do you think that she needs to restrict herself to shitty spas (and I disagree that the only good ones are the Top 4)?? Actually with this trend, she'd be a breath of fresh air!! You dont need to invest to be hired by Kayla or Joy or whoever else!! You need the look, the attitude, the smile. And working shouldnt 'give her some confidance' Thats something you wont find on a table...massage, or surgeons!!

 

[Stacey M]

Considering the number of your posts, I am certain that you're correct, Sir. In that case, I'd ask Disturbia junior to dream on!!!!!!

 

[Wendy]

This is the funniest load of crap!! 'clients love us more in heels' WTF?? Thats a little far fetched! From my view...yes heels are VERy sexy and we wear them. No on said we have to keep them on in the room. If I'm BS-ing and chair-sliding, etc, my shoes have gotta go! And you guys dont think management has anything to do with the pressures ... HA! I remember when I started, it was DATY is optional. Now at my old place of work...if you dont offer that, you get canned!

I think clients love us more when we love ourselves first. When we are happy, smiling, and eager!

 

[tropical bubble]

Speaking of stiletto heels............................................................

http://www.massageplanet.net.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=213845

 

[Jim Halpert]

I whole hartedly have to agree. Naturals, even the small ones just feel so much better than the manmades. IMHO they actually look better too. Now mind you I am only a couple years shy of sixty. Forty years ago those 58 Buick bumper tits that stuck strait out were eye catching...lol. About 10 years ago, A fantastic girl that had danced for me regularly at Private Eyes for a few years informed me she would be off work for a while because she was going to have breast implants. I was shocked because she had beautiful breasts that were amazingly perportioned to her body. I told her of my surprise, and also my opinion that she already had a great body. She replied that she hated her shape. She had always thought herself too small. She explained that her decission was not a result from pressure or suggestions from anyone. It was something she was wanting for a long time. In fact she went on to explain that her decission was causing a great deal of tension between her boyfriend and herself, as he agreed with me. The decission had nothing to do with money, as she was one of the most popular girls at Private Eyes. Now it wouldn't be fair to generalize based on this one case, but it is possible that a lot of these women want the surgery for the same reasons that slim women who are anarexic (sp?) don't eat. Just my opinion.

 

[starfire85]

Where did I ever say working ever gave her confidence? This might have given her more confidence in being comfortable and assertive around clients, but to then spread this to a "life-thing" is a little over the top.

With all due respect, your missing one little piece... you can't paint brush everybody's decisions just because they are not the same as your own, and you can't paint brush all surgeries because of the ridiculousness of many of the unnecessary procedures people undertake.... some of them are "fairly" reasonable decisions. I'd say in this case it worked out very well for her.

Anyway, I like your thoughts, and I'm afraid to get in a pissing match with you, lol

 

[shivaa]

LOL I hate how the internet cancels out tone of voice. I seem to get taken the wrong way sometimes. some of them look great. So much so that they ended up on the naturals list! Thats not my point. I dont think boobjobs equal assertiveness around clients. Thats all. If a girl is insecure, she will still be insecure after the butt implants.

Im down for a pissing match!!!!!

 

[KandyGirl16]

I was wondering if you have any stats or an educated/informed guess on the proportion of "Fake vs. Real" for the different MP's? (I have not seen as wide a stable of MPA's as you have)

It would be interesting to see if any trends are identified - Do top level spa's attract more fake to keep up with the roster of MPA's? Do low level spa's attract more fake to attract clients? Are the percentages consistent across all level of spa's?

Then again it may show nothing and I'm just adding another post to my post-count.

In other news I paid my gas bill and had scrambled eggs for breakfast.

 

[ESS-93]

This, my dear, is something that we all have to pay high prices to learn. We lose so much until technology grows up and allow us to truly show how we think without making people upset due to misunderstanding / miscommunication.


I wonder which one of these scientists care more.....Breast implants or this --->
http://www.nature.com/news/2008/081121/full/news.2008.1247.html?s=news_rss

 

[Easter Bunny]

When it comes to cosmetic surgery, looking down the barrel of hard double DD's is fairly obvious. As MPASquared pointed out, however, there's a ton of more subtle cosmetic surgery out there:

botox, nose jobs, collogen lips etc

Once these girls go down the Cosmetic Surgery path it's hard to stop. There's always another flaw to fix.

I honestly believe the MP business fucks with their minds, because it plays into their insecurities. I've heard at the higher end spas, various procedures are a favourite topic of conversation.



I just paid my TELUS bill. If you're ever in Niagara Falls, go to Falls Manor for breakfast. It's a fantastic greasy spoon.

http://www.fallsmanor.com/fallsmanor_restaurant.html

 

[gina]

LOL. I had not seen this post/picture.

My early years in a competitive sport has allowed me to walk
in any inch stiletto like flip-flop's.

I even thought that derriere in the picture was mine!

 

[Roscait]

I like good ones regardless of being real or fake. Having said that I can think of 10+ amazing fake ones and can think of maybe 3 or 4 great naturals.

BTW, Sierra(Former Jessica of Allure) quite possibly has got the best set of naturals. Yummy !!!!!!