Tipping is voluntary... so why do MPAs get mad if you give less???

[flower2008]

I was being sarcastic babe. But if ur going to places giving u rushed, disinterested service, u are going to the wrong spas! Most spas with a receptionist keep an eye on time, certain spas also train their staff about rushing/the value the client expects/quality control. Sweeety is talking about agreeing upon a price for a service, and wondering why they get upset if he only pays half of what's agreed upon. This isn't about additional tips for stellar service.

Point being, pay what u agree to. Speak up if ur not happy. Don't cheap out unless u want a mad MPA.

 

[???? ?? ????]

We have all gone to MPs, paid a door fee and received subpar service. But when leaving a $40 "tip" for a subpar or shortchanged 30 min bodyslide session, the MPA gets upset or reminds you the tip should be $80. WTF!!! Shouldn't this expected payment be called a in-service charge and not a tip??

 

[DayiTh!nkz Bill ist Sexxi]

I don't understand why it is called a tip in an MP... isn't that lingo borrowed from the SP world, and only used there because of the legal implications? Really it just creates confusion between the rate you pay in the room, which is generally set by the spa, and anything you decide to give them over and above this fee, which is a tip in the more commonly understood usage of the term. Allure, for example, call the set fee we pay the MPA a "Service Fee", which for me is a more practical way to describe it...

http://www.alluremassage.ca/services.asp

It makes sense to me for example that I should be able to give an MPA $75 instead of $100 if she's trying to end a 40 minute session at the 30 minute mark, but I suspect the spas and the girls don't see it that way. I definitely don't think anyone working at the spas view the service fee as voluntary...

 

[Steel city]

I've never been rushed or shorted on time there either. If only they had a website and in-room showers.

 

[blueskywoo819]

It really is a service fee (similar to how SPs have "donations").
Obviously, if you try to short-change the MPA, it will result in subpar experiences..

 

[Mr Bored sober]

I think they just like driving rates/expectations up for the rest of us.

I never tip the MP (or the mechanic). If the girl is unhappy or requests more money for delivering the service as posted - it doesn't happen and I'm not returning. When I get good service for the money offered, the good news is that I will return.

I would never try to short the girl for bad service (not to be confused with no service) - I just lick my wounds and make a note never to return to the MP at all.

 

[Frederic]

same here JS, my tip is my repeat business, if i have extra $20 to burn i might be inclined to share it, if the lady go out of her way to "impress" me. but mostly, i repeat and seeing me after a week, makes them smile and happy, it's all good.

 

[The Lemur]

What more could a girl ask for Perfect reply rich! A regular is extremely valuable. And $20 bonus for exceptional service makes sense.

 

[Mira]

That's a different scenario than what Sweeety's hypothesizing, but if you shortchange a MPA, I don't imagine you plan on repeating with her.

I don't agree with shorting an in-room fee. The fee is largely based on service (N/NR/BS) and not time, so shorting wouldn't be cricket, IMO.

If you've you been short-changed in a session, the answer is simple. Tell the MPA and tell the manager (if one is around), then come on to massageplanet.net and tell everyone what happened.

 

[cheryl d]

I agree with JS or Richaceg and MPASq, door fee paid up front and the extra's are known to regulars and should always be paid after the session, that would be like taking a cab ride and not paying a fare - complain to the cab company if you must but pay the fare...tipping or gifts are completely optional...if I choose to have a session with a new MPA she usually asks who I have seen,,,it lets her know I am a regular and that I know the standards of service including full time provided, that are usually offered. Not sure if the MPAs discuss this with each other or the owners, or even if they discuss their sessions after. Maybe MPASq can answer that. If I felt rushed, I would jokingly say slow down - I'd rather take care of you, if a NR has been agreed to with the attendant. If service is bad do not go back but do the others a favour and let us know. Some MPAs are on massageplanet.net and they or their managers will notice...

 

[Pompal 09.]

It is not actually a tip. it is a fee. and going in, it is a the fee agreed upon based on what session you want. Take note that once the MP shed all her clothes (or let's say the bare essentials are actually bare) you're tip/fee/donation(whatever you call it) has one foot on the grave. meaning you can either downgrade your session if you sense restricitions and ask to do nude only and no reverse (i've done this once).

 

[Tali]

With regulars, I leave the tip/fee out at the beginning of the session. I prefer not to talk business during.

Mentioning who else you see is a double edged sword. It's good for the reasons you mentioned. But it can be bad if there's animosity between the girls. Also, some (smart) girls won't go the extra mile if they know you play around. No point giving away the kitty since you're not going to keep loyal.

 

[Emma?]

i believe some ladies are like that but i always let them know that competition is right around the corner. if they drop their mileage, i'm on to the next lady. i didn't sign any stipulation to stick to one provider. i already have that at home. i've been bullshitted so many times in this hobby that i don't need drama like that.

 

[LADY PURP]

Sweeety - you gotta know better. There's the door fee, the service fee and then the tip, this tip is optional. The service fee isn't (most of the time)

 

[Eon kid]

Whether your body slide was 'good' or 'bad' is a matter of subjective opinion, but getting shorted on time is a matter of fact. Personally I think many girls count on the fact that getting into a debate about the length of the session (or anything else) will completely kill the vibe, and even then the expectation would still be that we pay in full and complain to management. And let's face it, many guys are reticent to make an issue about being shortchanged on a sexual service. Most guys would not for example complain to management about shorted by 10 minutes, even though that might be a quarter of the time you paid for. From everyone's responses it's clear the expectation is that the MPA needs to be paid in full no matter what happens, and a lot of less the less conscientious MPAs definitely take advantage of this reality.

 

[Ben L]

The worst part in my humble opinion, when they ask for the tip upfront.

 

[Pompal 09.]

The 'tip' is a euphemism for the lady's fee but you can actually tip above a notional, standard fee where one is not advertised.

 

[Loogle]

The worst is when it's called a tip. If they ask, it's the price, not a tip, and it's long been understood that the best, least trouble-prone sorts of business deals are the ones where price and services are dealt with and agreed on up front.

 

[audilicous4]

If I'm not mistaken, bylaws and licensing play a big part in what can be called a service fee and what must be called a tip.
We all know there are places with prices listed on the wall and on their web sites for specific services. Obviously these places are permitted to do so or they'd be in all kinds of hot water. Other places have to be more discreet about the services they offer and how they're priced out.
Beyond that, any respectable and experienced hobbyist knows the standard rates and should pay and tip accordingly.

 

[Shivani]

The taxi analogy is perfect. And if worded how the OP did it would be "Why do cab drivers get upset when you arrange a flat rate to the airport and get upset when u give them half?" HAHAHA

Yes, we talk/share/question/advise/learn/laugh/vent/brag. It makes for better MPAs/friends/service/skill-set.



WOW What bitter land do u hobby in? My brain can't even calculate how much business would be lost in an environment like that. And you call girls like that SMART? How? By costing themselves hundreds, if not thousands in potential clients? Im sorry but if u give exceptional service, he'll be back. Who cares who else he sees LOL.



Competition is everywhere. You're right! But mileage isnt eventhing, i'd think if the mileage dropped then the vibe would too. And you guys certainly dont go to MPs for bad vibes, drama, or awkwardness.



Sad but true.




Why? That can often allow a girl to relax (especially if she doesnt know u yet) and focus more on your enjoyment than worrying about $$. As TP said above, get 'er done and then forget this business aspect. Also, on a side note to that, the 2 times I ever got ripped off as an MPA were from a regular!! It only goes to show that u never know what people will do or who u can trust. No harm in her being cautious.

You boys should be able to focus more on the pure enjoyment and euphoria of the entire experience IMO.