When a hobby suddenly becomes an Addiction

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NorthPole has a good idea, pick your favorite, see her exclusively, tell her you love her, and she will probably suggest you stop seeing her. This will sting enough that you might actually stop.
 
I am beginning to believe that I am spiralling out of control. My monthly spending habit on MPAs has doubled over the last 6 months. Other then the necessities i.e. food, clothing, shelter, the bulk of my income is being eaten away at this hobby. Or is this a hobby?
When do I admit to myself that I have to change my ways and find something more productive...a real hobby perhaps?
Many of you have offered great suggestions, ideas, etc. but it has been in vain. I am starting to hate myself.
 
Some one named New Years Eggy did it, and that was the end of that.
 
That's a good start. Read Confessions by Augustine and you'll understand the suffering he had to go through to overcome his addiction with alcohol and brothels. It's always a case of "one more time".

Stay away from this board and other review boards. You'll be surprised how quickly the temptation drops off.

Augustine notes that you'll never truly win over your temptation even if you stop the habit. Ultimately, you need to rediscover the person that you were before you began this hobby. You'll never be that person again (metaphorically you have sold your soul to the devil, and I don't mean this in a judgemental or even religious way), but at least you have a reference with which you can work towards.

Good luck.
 
To answer the question in your subject, the hobby becomes an addiction with the first MPA you visit
 
I hear you.

At one time, a few years ago, I was getting out of control too. Sometimes going to an MP 3 or 4 times a week and even when I wasn't, I was thinking about it. Definitely 2 times a week.

I don't think I actually ever kept acurate track of the money, but I was definitely doing the mental addition.

It got to a point where I literally had to start fighting the urge to go.

The best way I found to stop going was to give myself something else to do in my spare time (usually when I would partake in the hobby, but not always).

If I got busy on another project, I would lose interest in going.

Now, I would say my "hobbying" is at a completely acceptable and managable level. At most, twice a month I would say, at the least, once every 2 months or 3 months.

I read a review on massageplanet.net one time by a guy who said that he opened a separate bank account and every time he felt the urge to go, he would transfer X dollars (whatever he figured he would have spent) into that account).

I think he said he bought a harley after 2 years.

One thing you could try doing is masturbating when you have the urge to kill the urge.
 
I would agree with dydx - stay away from this board and any other review boards as well as any other things you would usually look at which may get your interest going such as the ads in Now/Eye etc.

james t kirk also had one thing you could concentrate on too, I guess, dull the urge somewhat (masturbating).... In all seriousness though, I'm sure this can help reduce the extent that you feel the need to go.

And as with the other suggestions, make sure you find something to occupy yourself with during the times that you would normally find yourself going to an MP. For example, if it is normally at lunchtime, go to a gym instead or something on a regular basis instead.

good luck.
 
If it was only that easy for me. Since this post, I have gotten myself alot deeper into this mess. Your comments have certainly given me new perspective, but I haven't changed my habits....

bruce
 
I hear you, but I'm not sure that quitting cold turkey is really an answer.

Everyone has a reason why they hobby. If you quit hobbying, but fail to deal with whatever that reason is, you'll save some $ (temporarily) but you won't be happy.

If your reason is that you need variety in your sex life, I suggest you develop a "stable" of civilian girlfriends (however, this won't be much less expensive).

If you hate yourself because of the amount of money you're spending, and think you should be spending it on something else, that's an easy problem to solve - just spend it on something else before you can get out to hobby!

If it's the amount of time you're spending in hobbying, you're going to need to schedule yourself into other activities.

If you hate yourself because on some level you disapprove of the fact that you're paying for sex, I can't help you there, because every man pays for sex in one way or another!

Good luck to you, but I don't suggest you quit hobbying. I suggest you just start doing whatever it is you'd really like to be doing.
 
You'll only change when you are ready to change, or forced to
(otherwise known as hitting rock bottom)
 
IMO ask for referals to top-quality RMTs (try upto 3 imo) and stick with the RMT who improves your emotional and physical health. I even recommend seeing a male RMT(s) to seperate the image of massage and romance. Good luck.
ps St. Augustine's Confessions is a good read whether you're atheist or religious. Peace man.
 
I've dealt with this problem in the past, I know what your talking about. It is addictive. So many girls to see... in my case I just slowed down the same way I got addicted - over time. Now I go about once a month. Fact of the matter is that all my favorite girls left the biz. That helped out alot!!!!
 
#1 thing every hobbyist should do is to set a budget and stick to it.

I know I can afford to spend $500-600/month and not any more and still be able to grow my bank account. That typically means either 2 sessions at the top end spas (HFH/IT/SRM/etc) or 1 visit there and 2 at the lower priced spas in a month. If I go over my limit I notice the bank account not growing or even draining and that's the wake up call. That's when it's time to go cold turkey for a while.

Typically, I try to go 1 - 1 1/2 months without even hobbying twice a year. Usually, mid-December to end of January is a no-hobby period then i try to find another one in the Summer. After awhile, the urge starts to dimish then you can either quit outright or start up but at a slower pace. I find the key is to force yourself into a "Fasting period" where you just don't hobby. Also, important is to keep an eye on the bank account during this fasting period and watch that account climb so that hobbying and what it is costing you in always in the back of your mind before you venture out.

Note: we are coming up to a perfect time to go cold turkey = The Olympics. Glue yourself to the TV while they are on (a little over 2 weeks) and avoid hobbying. Distraction from hobbying is a big key as well.
 
I agree, it is either sheer willpower (ready to change) or a crisis (forced to change). Halfway measures or the occasional sip at the well will not do the job. A pattern that incorporates an increasing level of carelessness to get caught, to get a disease, to run out of money, whatever, would not be atypical.

I'm not preaching, I just feel for you and know what you are thinking (all too well!).
 
Wake up and smell the coffee ... you are spiralling out of control. You are admitting it openly.

Admit it NOW. Then you can help yourself. None of the people here can help you, unless they are physically with you 24/7.

It has only been in vain because you have not acted upon any of the suggestions.

I know, I have the same problem. I have already admitted it to myself and have taken the first step. I am helping myself one day at a time. Yes the urge hits you, your head swings when you drive by every flashing neon sign!

I have cut down, am down to once a week. My goal is once a month and then I will re-evaluate myself. I can't go back into that hole again.

You can only face it by confronting it !!!

Good luck Bruce

VBB

PS. Sorry to be harsh, but you have to be that on yourself to get over this.
 
Ha, that's the truth. I remember that I would be driving down different streets and I would always find the MPs, no matter how discrete they were packaged. Sometimes, my car would just make the left.

Hobbiests can smell these places from km away.

Even the first time I went to SRM for example, I didn't pay much attention to the address, but I knew what area it was in.

I found it.

You just know.
 
It would only become an addiction to me if I could find the ultimate BBW dame. (the chubbier the better)
 
When I went through a time where I was going more than once a week and decided it had to stop, I ended up masturbating more often (discovered internet newsgroup downloads) and replacing MP visits with RMT visits... I ended up seeing an RMT about once every 2 weeks for six months before I was ready to start hobbying again on a bi-weekly to monthly basis.
 
This won't be helpful to everybody who has concerns about addiction because it just doesn't fit all guys' circumstances, but here's what I do: I limit my hobbying to what can be supported by a distinct revenue stream OTHER THAN MY SALARY. In my case I used royalties from a book I wrote, but I started to feel that even this was too much. These days, the revenue stream I use is whatever I can win from regular poker pals. Some months are good, some not so much.
 
I know where you are coming from Bruce, I really feel for you. I was in that position more than once. Sometimes I would think that I knocked it only to get knocked down the following week and being more deeper in the hole.

I don't really know what worked to at least get me out of the hole and in a position that at least for now seems managable. The urge is always there, I can't help myself but then again I know I can.

All the advise given is good, but in the end you know the answer lies within you.

To be honest at present I don't think that I will ever quit this hobby unless something tragic causes a life changing experience, but I do know that if I ever do ... this board will never hear from me again.

VBB
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Helen๐ŸฅฐBrand new very young university student from Hong Kong. Great massage skills with a wild flirtatious side willing to tease and please to bring you to satisfaction. Perky natural 34C breasts perfect for kissing and body slide
  30. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek : For Sunday November 24, 2024, our attendants will be Ada ๐Ÿ˜˜, Cici ๐Ÿ”ฅ, Lucy โค๏ธ, Ivy ๐Ÿฅฐ and Christina ๐Ÿค— We have a great lineup for tomorrow! Call 905-479-6668 tobook!
  31. SL West:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Funday Sunday ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” Tina, Eva, 34D Tear Drop Suki, Cici, Sophia, JPN Yui, Coco, Tiffany & 36D Julieโ€” ๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  32. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Doris ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  33. Moneylee:
    Full season Wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Connie , Student big boobs buttocks Vicky ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo , young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Linda ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  34. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธRebecca๐ŸŒธClaire๐ŸŒธFran๐ŸŒธEly๐ŸŒธJazmin Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  35. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธAlisa๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธValentinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  36. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New girl Ivy big boobs 36DD ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Hot and sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Suki and Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of parking spaces
  37. lotushubspa:
    Dear customers, Lotus Spa is located at 10737 Yonge St unit13. The girl who works today is named Anna๐Ÿ’‹Tina๐Ÿ’‹Mia๐Ÿ’‹. We have massages from Taiwan, China and Korea for you. First-class service. Come and try it quickly๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ’‹Please contact 9052375885๐Ÿ’‹ or SMS 4163565876๐Ÿ’‹
  38. Sunrise Spa:
    ๐Ÿ˜˜ We have a wonderful Asian spa in downtown Toronto ๐Ÿ˜˜ 302 Adelaide St W, 2nd Floor ๐Ÿ˜˜ Today is Coco, Caribbean Sophie and Kitty ๐Ÿ˜˜ 416-916-7276
  39. hiyamickey:
    7 girls working at Reinella wellness, 19 years Japanese girl Hannah, 20 years old Japanese girl Amanda, Angela, Lulu, Sasha, Queenie, Ella @ 6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  40. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Foxy -๐Ÿ”ฅYour new addiction at Sparkling Spa! A tall 5โ€™7โ€ sexy Korean girl with a wi
  41. Lily Spa:
    โค๏ธ KAJAL, ELENA, CINDY and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  42. #203MoMo&Beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Turkish Persian girl and Asian girl today
  43. AliceSpa:
    SATURDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 416-298-0898 [/color] 3 Top Girls Today at Alice Spa: *New today, NANCY: is a young, petite & busty JAPANESE cutie. Nancy is short with a small body, pretty babyface, AV Star type. MAGGIE (10am-9pm) (1pm-9pm) is young pretty & petite. Short & super slim, busty HK student, great massage
  44. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž Saturday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY & MIA. CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. MIA is a young 27 JAPANESE girl, curvy, good massage bbj cim, nice and open minded.
  45. ASPA:
    SATURDAY at ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Jenny, Rachel & Tracy. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ JENNY is a sexy Asian honey, about 165 Cms., slim to medium build, beautiful natural 36Cโ€™s, long sexy legs & big hips, good massage & excellent services. Jenny has sexy smooth skin and a very good personality.
  46. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Apple๐Ÿ˜˜ - Brand new girl from Taiwan ju
  47. HolidaySpa:
    Saturday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธAMY & NANA. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills Nana is a slim and very sexy Korean lady, very pretty and accommodating. Come and try, you will like. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด
  48. SugarLoveSpa:
    Saturday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LUNA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. SARA is a beautiful Thai lady with C Cups, 160 Cms and 50 Kgs, with a full set of services to delight you. TIFFANY is amazing slim petite
  49. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Sasa is here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿซฆ Sasa is Young Pretty Chinese Girl ๐Ÿ’„ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  50. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Yoyo & Nayla are in today ๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Yoyo is a Very HOT n' Sexy Asian. ๐Ÿ‘ Nayla is a Tall, Young, Beautiful & Curvy Spanish Girl. ๐Ÿ’‹ All Our Girls Provide Lots of E X T R A S & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open from 8am til Late Everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
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