Kijiji Ad : New Brilliance Spa, Ridgeway and Laird (North of Dundas), Mississauga

I have not been there in a few weeks.
Made an appt with girl below for tomorrow
looking for ward to this session

 
No special talent here, no special anything to be honest. As always when a new spa opens, I check in with the hopes of something unique... and again and again its the same shit, over and over, right down to the wall art.

For 99% of mississauga spa, proximity is the only differenciating factor.

Best bet in this shit hole city is to form some level of familiarity with management/owner and maybe now and again something different and fun comes on your radar.

Honestly the amount of "this 40y old girl was new (to me, not to half of the gta)" and didnthe same basic service for same price reviews... offer nothing.

Forum would be better off if the standard was posting NEGATIVE experiences so we know what to avoid...
Thanks, I have yet to visit but will do so .... thanks for the update. Cheers
 
I mean on any given day there can be an all star at any of these joints man.... you know how it goes. Youve been to enough sessions and spas and just seen the same shit again and again and again.

So I stopped selecting for talent long ago (girls are out of our control) and instead select for things within my control- neighbourhood, hygeine, convenience to other errands if need be, ect.

Or outside the spa, as the ultimate in convenience. On demand! :)
Funny, I stick local, hygiene and NICE girls are what I look for ... milage of course (but no necessary for BJ or FS) .... clean, friendly, enjoyable hour .... happy for a $100 tip ....

I find Z-one and V-one good for this ... Comfort at times but, they are always late ...

Keep me posted on your travels, cheers.
 
Just checking in here, any updates on New Brilliance on Ridgeway, seems like some activity there these days.
Manager Mark there most days. Any feedback?
 
Just checking in here, any updates on New Brilliance on Ridgeway, seems like some activity there these days.
Manager Mark there most days. Any feedback?
Been to New Brilliance a few times.. (3100 Ridgeway, Mississauga).. always enjoy my time with Tina (she may use another name with others). Having seen Tina a few times we developed a repour of FS. She is mid 40s with nice firm body. Limited English but enough to get by. Gives a great massage with nice tease and a happy ending for first timers. Get to know her over time and she will get comfortable with you to move to FS with DATY (beautifully fresh shaved pussy) and CBJ and CFS.
 
Been to New Brilliance a few times.. (3100 Ridgeway, Mississauga).. always enjoy my time with Tina (she may use another name with others). Having seen Tina a few times we developed a repour of FS. She is mid 40s with nice firm body. Limited English but enough to get by. Gives a great massage with nice tease and a happy ending for first timers. Get to know her over time and she will get comfortable with you to move to FS with DATY (beautifully fresh shaved pussy) and CBJ and CFS.

Tina, when to work?
 
I'd avoid this place and try other spots in the area. I've gone 4 times now (seen 3 different ladies) and they're all old and very unattractive. Had 2 sessions with Tina and although her massage was good, I just couldn't get passed her looks.
 
I'd avoid this place and try other spots in the area. I've gone 4 times now (seen 3 different ladies) and they're all old and very unattractive. Had 2 sessions with Tina and although her massage was good, I just couldn't get passed her looks.
I've only gone there once and I can confirm they are not attractive at all, however, they were very courteous and nice. Conversation was broken due to language barrier but they definitely tried which is much better than the treatment I've experienced at other places.
 
I've been here about 4 different times, have never seen any attendant that was remotely attractive, and definitely on the older side (not that there is anything wrong with that). I will say massage is usually good to above average, never asked for more than HJ, so can't comment on menu. Place is clean and basic.
 
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