Akira from Premier is she gone gone?

Indy providers span the whole range of quality. The ones that last and build a steady clientele don’t short you on time, usually entering the location and first shower are not included in your time unless she joins you in the shower or you arrive late or take a very long time in the bathroom getting ready. The good and bad of independents are they are their own boss (if they are bad with time management or scheduling then your experience will be a disaster) on the other hand if you are nice and don’t push boundaries and they have time they will sometimes include extra time for free as they are not fined by an agency or SPA.

In terms of pricing some girls try to discourage shorter sessions with higher rates or don’t take bookings of shorter sessions altogether. For example Jenn Perla used to not take 1 hour bookings until she raised her rates to 500 HR and 1.5 HR booking became $750. She now offers 1 HR but charges $550 to discourage people from booking the shorter session. Some of the girls do charge extra on top of the hourly fee for some items such as BBFS, Rimming, Greek etc. In terms of tipping above the hourly fee you don’t need to do it.

In terms of service the quality ones do provide a better experience then at the SPA case in point Emily Sweets as I think her service as an Indy is better then what you get at Pure/Perla now. As mentioned by other posters a lot of girls tried to go Indy but their service/price wasn’t attractive to people and they ended back at the SPA.

This is a great answer thanks. So to be clear, a session that's an hour long is considered a "shorter session" and something they would prefer to avoid whenever possible? I'm surprised that these girl's clients are mostly doing sessions well over an hour at those rates, but I guess they have enough of them to make it worthwhile even when it's a smaller pool of clients.

For the rest of us it's rather unfortunate to be spending $400-$600 for an hour and still feeling like a cheapskate!

When the girls opt to provide extra time how do they let you know? It seems most working girls feel very strongly about not wanting clients to linger past their time, so how do you know when you completely have the green light and don't have to worry about this? Thanks again.
 
This is a great answer thanks. So to be clear, a session that's an hour long is considered a "shorter session" and something they would prefer to avoid whenever possible? I'm surprised that these girl's clients are mostly doing sessions well over an hour at those rates, but I guess they have enough of them to make it worthwhile even when it's a smaller pool of clients.

For the rest of us it's rather unfortunate to be spending $400-$600 for an hour and still feeling like a cheapskate!

When the girls opt to provide extra time how do they let you know? It seems most working girls feel very strongly about not wanting clients to linger past their time, so how do you know when you completely have the green light and don't have to worry about this? Thanks again.
Some girls will absolutely never give you free extra time but for others they see it as sort of a marketing expense to keep good clients normally you won’t get it on your first visit but you will need to see them a couple times and very rarely does it include sexual activity most of the time it is social in nature and the girl will let you know. For example she may ask if you want to stay for a cup of coffee or a glass of wine, in some cases dinner. If she is giving you a massage at the end of your session she may just keep going. Or before the session starts she may tell you that she has some free time after the session due to a cancellation etc. and you can stay for x time.
 
Don't count on extra time. She's likely got another client coming and needs to get ready. She'll let you know when you're time is up, don't worry about it. But when she starts hinting, that means it's time to leave, not linger.

I'd say I've only gotten extra time 20% of the time or less. It's usually when they don't have another client booked and they like your company. If you go in expecting it, you'll probably be disappointed.
 
So in the rare instances where they are clearly signalling you can stay for a bit longer for non-sexual time when they don't have a client right after you, is this time they expect or want to be paid or tipped for, or if it's strictly for marketing then it's just your continued frequent patronage that is the goal?
 
So in the rare instances where they are clearly signalling you can stay for a bit longer for non-sexual time when they don't have a client right after you, is this time they expect or want to be paid or tipped for, or if it's strictly for marketing then it's just your continued frequent patronage that is the goal?
I would not say it is rare, I would say it is rare for the average customer. The smart girls know to look after their VIP clients (big spenders/tippers) so that they continue to spend on them. Even in the SPA setting you see the same dynamic though it has to be outside the SPA.

For example take Sasha at Pure if you look at her client J’s Secret who spends a lot on her she sees him outside the SPA and Sexyfriends Agency and does not charge him for all the time, on the other hand the guy Candyman on this board wanted to see her outside the SPA but he wasn’t a big spender so she never went.

Another example is Olivia at Pure her Pet B used to spend a lot of money on her but she took him for granted as a result he reduced his spending on her and started to spend it on other girls.

It is not just free time another thing the girls do is certain gifts like chocolate or wine they recycle to other clients, for example if Client A gives them a bottle of wine they may regift it to client B.
 
Facially she's just ok for me but she's got a nice body. Has anyone here seen her as an indy, is her service better than at Perla? Because in the spa I found her service on the lighter end of GFE.
 
Facially she's just ok for me but she's got a nice body. Has anyone here seen her as an indy, is her service better than at Perla? Because in the spa I found her service on the lighter end of GFE.
Interested too if someone wants to DM me
 
I would not say it is rare, I would say it is rare for the average customer. The smart girls know to look after their VIP clients (big spenders/tippers) so that they continue to spend on them. Even in the SPA setting you see the same dynamic though it has to be outside the SPA.

For example take Sasha at Pure if you look at her client J’s Secret who spends a lot on her she sees him outside the SPA and Sexyfriends Agency and does not charge him for all the time, on the other hand the guy Candyman on this board wanted to see her outside the SPA but he wasn’t a big spender so she never went.

Another example is Olivia at Pure her Pet B used to spend a lot of money on her but she took him for granted as a result he reduced his spending on her and started to spend it on other girls.

It is not just free time another thing the girls do is certain gifts like chocolate or wine they recycle to other clients, for example if Client A gives them a bottle of wine they may regift it to client B.
This is because Candyman is not a cuck fool like you are (since you're clearly the other two people you've alluded to).

See, I spend a bit of my money on these girls when I get bored, but am always in complete control. You, on the other hand, pour all your money into these women, shower them in gifts, take them to Jamaica free of charge, and top that all off by putting on a leash and letting them walk you around your condo as you wear a leather dog suit and ball gag with your two inch penis hanging out.

(who wants pictures??!!!)

This makes me a mostly normal guy with excellent control over his finances and personal life). This makes you a pathetic man bitch with a two inch penis and a huge hole in his credit card.

I like my side of the equation better.
 
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Is Akira a real Japanese girl? Or fake Chinese pretending to be Japanese.

If real…where can I see her this weekend?
 
Is Akira a real Japanese girl? Or fake Chinese pretending to be Japanese.

If real…where can I see her this weekend?
AFAIK she's Japanese.

Her schedule and rates are on her website, which I think were linked to already.

Facially she's just ok for me but she's got a nice body. Has anyone here seen her as an indy, is her service better than at Perla? Because in the spa I found her service on the lighter end of GFE.
I think her service is a bit better as an Indy. She certainly seems more relaxed, which probably helps. I do think her SF2 suffers a bit in the hotel showers vs the ones at Perla, for whatever that's worth.

The caveat here is that I'd seen Akira more than a few times at Perla so I wasn't exactly an unfamiliar face going to see her as an indy. So there's no real awkwardness, and we just kind of let things go where they go, and I know I can have a good time.

So I think my experience is going to be different compared to someone who is seeing her for the first time.

And no, I've never showered her with gifts or anything of that nature. Just being respectful and a repeat client seems to work well for me.
 
This is because Candyman is not a cuck fool like you are (since you're clearly the other two people you've alluded to).

See, I spend a bit of my money on these girls when I get bored, but am always in complete control. You, on the other hand, pour all your money into these women, shower them in gifts, take them to Jamaica free of charge, and top that all off by putting on a leash and letting them walk you around your condo as you wear a leather dog suit and ball gag with your two inch penis hanging out.

(who wants pictures??!!!)

This makes me a mostly normal guy with excellent control over his finances and personal life). This makes you a pathetic man bitch with a two inch penis and a huge hole in his credit card.

I like my side of the equation better.
These pics exist?
 
These pics exist?
The pics of J’s secret are on Sasha twitter, though I am not J’s Secret. Personally I don’t understand why this guy Candyman gets triggered by some of these girls clients as they don’t impact him. Even though he claims he hasn’t seen the girls in over a year he keeps messaging Sasha on Twitter even though she doesn’t care and he was blocked by Olivia on Twitter. He must have a very fragile ego.
 
The pics of J’s secret are on Sasha twitter, though I am not J’s Secret. Personally I don’t understand why this guy Candyman gets triggered by some of these girls clients as they don’t impact him. Even though he claims he hasn’t seen the girls in over a year he keeps messaging Sasha on Twitter even though she doesn’t care and he was blocked by Olivia on Twitter. He must have a very fragile ego.
What’s her Twitter handle? I don’t kink shame 😆
 
Facially she's just ok for me but she's got a nice body. Has anyone here seen her as an indy, is her service better than at Perla? Because in the spa I found her service on the lighter end of GFE.
She was far from the lighter side of GFE at Perla.
 
She was far from the lighter side of GFE at Perla.
Okay I found these pics. She really isn’t all that special looks wise imo and the level of drama seems a little over the top. Best of luck ...
 
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    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️ (647) 891-9688☎️ ☎️ (416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Jessica😍 She is a young, captivating massage girl from Korea who combines her gentle touch with an intuitive sense of what her clients need. Her soft, skillful hands and soothing presence create an atmosphere of deep relaxation and
  38. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Kelly ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2☎️4376655510 🦵🦵👅👅🈵🈵👄👄
  39. ASPA:
    𝗠𝗢𝗡𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗔𝗧 𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL. 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is slim and attractive
  40. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .☎️4379857899 👄👄🦵🦵🈵🈵👅👅
  41. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 beautiful young girls are working today , young sweet Yuki slime 30’s open mind and Young fun Selina with big buttocks open mind, cute GFE Ella and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  42. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    a✨Click On Username and FOLLOW US✅ Today 🌸Yoyo🌸Aletta🌸Fran🌸Anjali 🌸Mel ☎905 - 265 - 2158☎️
  43. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at 🫦❤️🔴♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Angela, Cindy & Ruby. Angela is a slim, young, small and very beautiful lady, busty with a nice ass, who can fulfill you in many ways. RUBY is Singaporean, very slim, petite & sexy, speaks English well, & has great services. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups
  44. Soul Relax Spa:
    ✨Click On Username and FOLLOW US✅ Today 🌸Brandy🌸Ivy🌸Kim ☎289 - 298 - 5662☎️
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️AMY, CINDY & YUMI AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Don’t miss out on her special skills YUMI is a sexy skinny Chinese babe, short with big boobs, nice smile & very good services.
  46. Endless Joy Spa:
    ✨✨✨✨✨[GRAND OPENING]✨✨✨✨✨ 💞Endless Joy Spa💞 🎇 (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565🎇10am-2am, New First Day Sexy Chinese Coco, Sexy Chinese Linda, Young Sexy Chinese Abie
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at ❤️💙 💜⎝𝗦𝗨𝗚𝗔𝗥 𝗟𝗢𝗩𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔⎠💖💗💘: CHERRY, ELLA & LUNA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON ☎ 𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟯𝟲𝟱-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎ CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5’1” with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude.
  48. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa 🌹🌹🌹3 girls 🔥🔥🔥5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke☎️416-817-3366👍 nice girl Mia big boobs 36DD 😘😘😘😘Hot and sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service😘😘😘, professional super Luna and Suki deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise😍😍😍😍❤️You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of parking spaces
  49. sunnyrocks:
    Condo massage
  50. YM203:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 new Asian girl Amy in later tonight &Spanish /Latin white skin girl in Monday
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