Chat At crossroads with hobbying...what should I do?

[therealcole]

To each his own. I only go to places where the door fee is covered by insurance. So literally all I pay is the tip. But yes I agree, paying $40 plus $30 for a no release HJ is somewhat steep.

However, as deranged as it sounds, a non happy, Happy Ending is fucking mind numbingly good. I started this practice years ago when I was on vacation in Shenzhen. For a mere $30 I got a sensual massage for an hour. Although I would get a smirk and a WTF expression from the masseuse at the end.

I have never risked my benefits at a non rmt place. I use my benefits for what they are intended for.
I separate the 2. I go to my RMT for what needs to be fixed and I go to my mpas for everything else that needs to be fixed.

 

[WizardofStyle]

I have never risked my benefits at a none rmt place. I use my benefits for what they are intended for.
I separate the 2. I go to my RMT for what needs to be fixed and I go to my mpas for everything else that needs to be fixed.

Exactly what I do. If you can pull off a benefit payment at a semi-legitimate house, congratulations. I know my benefits administrator kicked up a stink a.few years ago, a number of places were blacklisted, and I realized it was a risk I wasn't wired to take.

 

[StallionGuy87]

Yeah I tip usually $30. And I don't stay long either, 45mins max. I am fairly upfront these days and my go-to regulars know what I want. They spend twenty minutes giving me an oil massage, mainly focusing on glutes and legs.

Grace of Serene Ocean gives me a pretty good prostate massage. On the flip it's an all out assault on me. Oiling my quads, chest, stomach. Finally the last ten minutes is on my cock. Various speeds and techniques. I come close, but if I get close to my point of no return she'll find a way to squeeze the bottom of the shaft and gentle grab of my balls. They've seen the Hegre type videos so they know what to do.

Who else is good at edging ?

 

[smallpantieshk]

Who else is good at edging ?

Thai Jenny is pretty good too, not sure if she still works at JR. Michelle the boss at E&M can edge you until you turn blue. Once you become a regular of theirs they will know what you like. And they will adjust their stroking techniques and speed to your desire.

 

[StallionGuy87]

Heard Michelle is not working.

Thai Jenny is pretty good too, not sure if she still works at JR. Michelle the boss at E&M can edge you until you turn blue. Once you become a regular of theirs they will know what you like. And they will adjust their stroking techniques and speed to your desire.

 

[Bigusdickus]

You got tired of the holistic scene? So even hot sex with gorgeous women doesn't last long? I like your comment about just letting whatever happen, happen and not let it be a focus of the session.

Yeah, your statement that I highlighted is exactly where I'm at. Everything is down to the T now...I know precisely when their clothes are coming off, which minute I will bust and what candies to select on my way out.

Yes you know you are in trouble when you start looking for that particular candy on the way out

 

[cupcrazy]

I wouldn't risk my job over insurance claims at semi legit. If the insurance companies find out, you have to pay your amount in full and most likely lose your job.

 

[Whitesnake1987]

I wouldn't risk my job over insurance claims at semi legit. If the insurance companies find out, you have to pay your amount in full and most likely lose your job.

Insurance fraud is a violation of the ethical code of conduct of any large corporation.

If caught, say goodbye to your job discharged with cause. Good luck finding your next job in this economy.

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[cupcrazy]

Insurance fraud is a violation of the ethical code of conduct of any large corporation.

If caught, say goodbye to your job discharged with cause. Good luck finding your next job in this economy.

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some people will have to learn the lesson the hard way.

 

[xtc27]

I wouldn't risk my job over insurance claims at semi legit. If the insurance companies find out, you have to pay your amount in full and most likely lose your job.

...no.... they just don't reimburse...

....employer only gets involved if claim = bogus receipt = fraud...

 

[Whitesnake1987]

...no.... they just don't reimburse...

....employer only gets involved if claim = bogus receipt = fraud...

Your employer may not get involved, but they will know for sure

When the next round of layoffs come, HR will check the dirt file for all managers to make the decision. Could be the factor that tips the scale.

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[xtc27]

some people will have to learn the lesson the hard way.

...seriously, think employer gives a shit? Benefits = lump sum 2 ins co... they deny thousands of claims... accept many more... & are being paid so employer doesn't have 2b bothered...

... they don't spend 5 sec lookng @ 'declined' ins claims... or accepted ones...

==> How do I know? Perhaps I'm not 14 yr old incel who never worked @ real job...

...boss wants 2 keep u / get rid of u... seriously, u think this shit even goes into it? Boss thinks: Productivity, team player...

.. declined spa claims don't even affect bottom line... only fraud bothers them...

 

[Jumpin’ Jack Flash]

Also as more claims made by employees, employer’s premiums do rise.

 

[xtc27]

Also as more claims made by employees, employer’s premiums do rise.

...& yr employer can change ins co, so ins co try 2 keep premiums low...

1. Your spa= on their list = claim accepted, no questions
2. Spa = not on list, but RMT # valid & listed w yr spa = claim accepted
3. If not 1 or 2, submit anyway, roll the dice!
4. If claim denied, appeal 2 ins co... mebbe they relent!

...u=submit claim in gd faith, they accept or decline by their rules... on we go.

• Is it fraud, like you trying to get $$ with fake receipt?
  • Ok, trouble, but not this discussion.
• Do you KEEP submitting f/ spa they declined? U=idiot, trouble coming yr way...

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Can u imagine ... some FRIGGN CLOWN thinks companies evaluate 'declined benefit claims' in performance ratings?

"Ok, we gotta cut some staff here... lookit this guy, top performer, beloved by co-workers, WHOA he got a benefit claim declined! TWO! Two declined! Let's lose this guy..."

"But, it didn't cost us anything! Lookit these other losers... don't even come into work every day..."

"BUT! No declined insurance claims! These are our heroes...."

...operate this way, soon u outta biz...

 

[Whitesnake1987]

xtc27 so triggered, can't hack it Baby!

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[Sybarite]

Insurance fraud is a violation of the ethical code of conduct of any large corporation.

If caught, say goodbye to your job discharged with cause. Good luck finding your next job in this economy.

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You should seriously consider becoming a priest.

 

[cupcrazy]

sometimes the insurance companies are scam too. I try to get my glasses reimburse, it was declined because I paid in cash. The insurance company said that is insufficient evidence to proof that I actually got the glasses despite I have the receipt wtf.

 

[Whitesnake1987]

sometimes the insurance companies are scam too. I try to get my glasses reimburse, it was declined because I paid in cash. The insurance company said that is insufficient evidence to proof that I actually got the glasses despite I have the receipt wtf.

So get a refund and pay by credit card.

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[OG_funguy]

Me too! I've been doing a bit of housekeeping lately figuring I'm gone!
same ole same ole wont work with me unless I can talk with the lady...
maybe time for new challenges.

hope it worked out for you!

Well, let's just say I'm currently in a situation that I've never quite been in before...crazy times

 

[Dotanuki]

Well, let's just say I'm currently in a situation that I've never quite been in before...crazy times

Gentlemen, may I offer a plausible reason for your feeling of malaise over the hobby? It is apparent that the "destination" is not as important as the journey. Many here (@Caliguy , @kl_funguy in particular) are very good at the "game" so now that you've mastered it, there is no appeal. Then again some of you have had relationships with MPA's outside of the life but you've found that such a situation is A LOT OF WORK, work that you may not interested in or tired of doing. The current covid situation prevents us from getting "civilians" right now. In my humble opinion that would have been the next level of focus.

Current financial realities have made semi legit ladies more willing to do extra as customers expect more for their money. I have heard many women complain that a hj should be 40 dollars without men pushing their hands down their pants or up their shirts. Now you even hear of FS for a mere 60 dollar tip in many spas (not just ratholes like JJ SPA). Mind you it's not because some customers are sauve, the women need money. That spoils it for such sophisticates who've mastered the game. Perhaps a hiatus is in order and keep your go to circle small, where you have pleasant interaction along with sex benefits. You might want you use your free time to learn Mandarin, that will open many doors for you. When you don't have to use a translator every 5 minutes it's smooths the road out. Who wouldn't get bored if the only conversation had revolves around sex play without the use of a translator app? Good luck gents.