Dating an Asian Massage Girl

[Pompal 09.]

Are you sure the dog wasn't a paying customer trying to leave before you?

 

[bryanhughjr]

Nabbeun, you are spot on. Now, that's an intelligent comment from a man who's been there.

As I've said, I've had a few of these relationships. I'd say half of them asked for cash for some dramatic reason. I don't usually give it, but once or twice I did because: a) it was a relatively small amount of money and b) I could afford to lose it.

I never got "paid back" either of those times, but I didn't expect to. No harm no foul.

A certain former girl who was once well known on this board once asked me for a loan of $10,000 to start up her own shop. I knew her well and I did trust her. I was sure she would have paid it back. No doubt. However, I didn't do it because I couldn't afford that amount. Period. We remain friends to this day (she's not in NY at present).

Basically, when the girls ask for money, they are telling you that you are just a preferred john, not a real, real relationship. Which is OK. It's part of the risk you run getting into it. But you have to know this or you will get burned. Once the question is asked, the girl goes from potential gf to something else, which is OK, because she's telling you that's what you are. As long as you know that, you can give or not as you see fit.

The other half never asked for anything and I never gave any. Good girls. I'm glad I knew them.

 

[deb.peg1]

fyi...many girls have an 'agent' that gets them bookings. they sit between the mamas/papas, and the girls. their existence is a huge secret, but once a girl i was close to spoke of it...only to deny it later. there was some huge sting operation around 'korean heaven' some years back...and the federal prosecutors complaint doc threw some lite on these 'middlemen'. just fyi.

i cant bear to read this entire thread and the flame wars. but to weigh in from personal experience:

if you are a newbie and want to wade in to an amp girl relationship...omg. be careful. but most important rule...see how far you can take things, but never, ever, under any circumstances make an 'investment' in them. the stories and bodies down that path are too numerous to count.

that being said: go ahead and give the girl a chance (while never forgetting rule #1). they are real human beings and if they do view you as more than a mark / meal ticket, they can make you feel like a king like few other women could or would take the time to. you just have to be sure you have a good one. again refer to rule 1. there are other ways you can still get taken, but that really requires more work than most of the black hearted ones are willing to put into it.

lastly, realize that if you are able to find a good one...she will want a real relationship in return. if you are able to give her that...great. if you have some illusions about keeping your 'real life' separate from your 'relationship with her' life...it can work in the short run. but in the long run you're screwed, cause they play for keeps and most will be smarter than you when it comes to looking 2 or 5 or 10 moves ahead...

 

[Nicolalia]

What exactly is an amp middleman. Do You find locations to open amps and pimp the women for proceeds aka Papasan CO owner; Or you just wish you were that guy?

 

[MY HEAD!!!]

Time for me to throw my hat in the ring. I've been with (and currently live with) the same amp girl now for over 5 years now. Very wonderful couldn't ask for better. She's got great friends, I love the constant vacations, even met her family twice in china, going again in June '12. Only thing i have to say is you can take the asian out of the casino, but u can't take the casino (gambleing) out of the girls.
Any ways my 2cents worth. Btw I'm the same ampmiddleman on USA sg. Don't forget to support your local amp mongers.

 

[Thollamail]

email me bruddah.

 

[Piequekbeby]

Hat's off to you. You made it work!!!!

 

[Benjamin!]

Spermwhale,

You deserve a good person. So happy for you. I wish you nothing but all the best to you

 

[Cordania]

I've been with an ex massage girl for 3 years who still works as the "manager" in an upstate AMP. She's a hell of alot nicer than my 2 ex wives and her baggage consists of not one,but two little dogs. I'm as happy as I have been for the last 20 years.

 

[kelsfiveofour]

Agreed. Lot's of hypocrite bs flying around. Back on topic. No one is asking about what goes on in Korea. This is all about dating in the US..

 

[C_LAYS]

you guys are pathetic... flame suit on

 

[Kristen G]

The first time i went to E4A downtown, i walked up the stairs. When they opened the door she was holding a little white dog, I thought I was in a dog grooming place I almost walked until she knew my name LOL

 

[smokesha]

Speaking of dogs, several KMP's I visited of late have little doggy running around. I don't think they are for lunch.

 

[Yeoh]

Yeah I am not going to bother constantly arguing with retired_h. We all know why his business failed because he's the only one who's always right.

 

[Orla C]

This is getting out of hand

 

[gnsmith1970]

The part of your post that irked me was the mention of the food. That food is commonly consumed in Korea. It has nothing to do with the AMP workers. You bring up what we would think as disgusting to continue to pound away at the working girl. In Korea this, in Korea that. I know exactly what it's like over there. We're not in Korea, anymore, Toto. Speaking of Toto, I wouldn't know where to begin to get dog, around here.

I can't argue with the other parts of your post but I'll tell you what: you complain about my putting these girls on a pedestal? Somebody has to. This way after the majority of you guys kick them to the curb, at least they can crawl.

 

[The Mariachi Bandit]

retired_h_03, you are so much in denial.

In Korea, if girls smoke in public, it is not uncommon for a guy to smack them.

In Korea, most girls do not approve of eating dog meat.

In Korea, most girls do not shove things up their asshole so they can shit better.

In Korea, if you are found to be a prostitute, you are shunned.

 

[brutusmom]

Jingle: you must have missed the part where one of the guys mentions the exotic food Koreans eat. He's not bringing it up because it's haute cuisine. Arresaeyo?

As far as the cultural traditions you mention, I can't find anything wrong with what you said. But there you go again with the generalizations. When you say Korean men disapprove, etc. etc., you couldn't be more wrong.

When I'm out in public in Korea with my wife, all I get from the ajeossies are smiles and approving looks. Many of the really old guys have come up to my wife and congratulated her. And the ajimas? Forget it. They adore me.

What's making me mad is the culture bashing. And there are examples of it on this thread.

You want to say that specific girls have treated you badly? Knock yourself out. But there isn't one example of that, here.

webspider: see Hangul, below.

I know I said I've posted my last post but some of the bullshit being thrown out here is going to go unchallenged if I don't do it.

 

[70s]

Quit being a drama queen. It's the same reason you got blasted on USG all the time with your multiple screennames.

Go to Seoul's booking clubs and ask the girls if they like to eat dog. 9 out of 10 will get grossed out. Ask how many of them stick enemas up their assholes to shoot lube. The generalizations I made are indeed generalizations but were made for KMP girls, not all Korean girls.

It's increasingly obvious you are just lashing out because you want to deny that there may be anything negative related to dating (or marrying) a massage girl. I like how now you've lifted these massage girls to such a pedestal that they can now see through me like some sort of wise prophet, while other girls are not enlightened enough to.

 

[Dr. Andrew Rochford]

Everything I said about the Korean culture is true, I wasn't bashing them. Korean women are not suppose to smoke and Korean men disapprove of any Korean women who's been with a foreigner(i got this from a provider there with my broken Hangul). So it's not really that surprising that a K-girl working here smokes since they already broke the other cultural taboo's.

You are narrow minded because anybody who mentions something outside of your happy marriage is making you mad and you're taking this pretty personally considering you already said twice that you won't be wasting your time on this thread. For me, the sex wasn't as exciting because she is no longer trying to make me into a regular. After faking it with a dozen guys a day and some of them probably looks like Ron Jeremy, you can't really expect her to get all excited about sex.

If you get one to quit, that's a different story because then you don't have to go through the difficulties I mentioned before. A lot of these girls are pretty normal it's just their profession is not easy for a guy to deal with. One time I was getting a bj and then a client calls. Let me tell you, it's not easy to finish after hearing that conversation.