Question I'm 25 years old, brand new to the scene. I've got lots of questions, and I hope you guys can show me the ropes. (STDs, undercover cops, etc.)

[Barney_B]

A little off topic, but some 400 series highways have increased speed limits. 401 may be soon. I've heard some drivers were stopped for going under 100. Which is a bit laughable and ironic. 100 is the maximum, not the minimum, even though everyone drives over 100, and because of this, driving under 100 is a safety issue. I still laugh everytime I see a sign that says the speed limit is 100, in all reality, it's a speed minimum. Ha ha ha ha ha.

Thanks Sarg'

So let's go with 130 kms on the 401 if that helps with the analogy.

 

[snoopdoggie]

Thanks Sarg'

So let's go with 130 kms on the 401 if that helps with the analogy.

That would be a little high for this analogy because the OPP will fine you for going over 120. 120 or less should be ok. As you may remember the speed limit was 70 before Canada switched over to metric, which is the equivalent to 112km/hr. I think they will raise it to 110 or 115.

 

[Somedude43]

Thanks snoop, your funnier on your show. This guy needs to go get his dick jerked. So go get it done bro. U got the money? U getting some nice asian pussy and titties in your face while they jerk u off. My advice is ask before you do. More you ask the more comfortable u will feel. Dont be a dickhead. Treat the girls with respect, they will take good care of your dick if u do. Prob do some extras if u got the money. Just ask politely.

 

[LittleCarrot]

my friend, we are very close in age. if you want i can meet with you for lunch and i can show you around to different MPs and introduce you to sweet and understanding girls to start you off.
i have been to most semi-legit MPs (E&M is the best wholesome clean place), many FS MPs, and also legit MPs.

my most serious warning to you is, once you start and enjoy this "hobby" you will "waste" A LOT of money over 1 years, 5 years, 10 years...
man if i didnt spend any money in this "hobby".....
i started in 2015 when a drunk customer randomly told me to visit backpage,com my life was not the same since.
the devil's whisper is as subtle as a slow uncontrollable rising erection...

 

[Pay2Play]

A little off topic, but some 400 series highways have increased speed limits. 401 may be soon. I've heard some drivers were stopped for going under 100. Which is a bit laughable and ironic. 100 is the maximum, not the minimum, even though everyone drives over 100, and because of this, driving under 100 is a safety issue. I still laugh everytime I see a sign that says the speed limit is 100, in all reality, it's a speed minimum. Ha ha ha ha ha.

Which 400 series highways have increased speed limits? Driving to slow can be as dangerous as erratic drivers.

No one should be passing on the right but this is becoming more common.

If a car is travelling faster than you, and, even if it’s in excess of the speed limit, the ownness is on you to move to the right and let it pass. If you do not than you are as chargeable as the speeder.

 

[Hornet]

Going to high mileage spas is like driving on the autobahn but since there is no autobahn in Canada it’s a sports driving infraction.

 

[xtc27]

Some of them are more than happy to take and teach "virgins" And a lot less chance that LE will show up if he is worried about getting a lawyer. Well, as we all know, nothing is perfect in this business.

...allotta indy msg = scams / way overcharge 4 basic extras... u should name specific ones where u've had gd experience... indy msg girls could seriously be trafficked, not a joke...

 

[johnbuyba]

the best advice i can give you as a newbie is the advice nobody else has given you. don't do it.. before you know it you'll be dedicating a portion of your salary to budget for this 'hobby' and be walking out of sessions checking your schedule for when you can book your next half hour appointment with one of your 10 regulars .. worse case scenario you end up like ursus begging an asian MPA to unblock you on here, in fact i wouldn't be surprised if ursus made a post just like yours 20 years ago somewhere, you both have a similar infatuation with asians.. interesting timing considering he's recently 'retired'

this hobby can get very expensive and adds up really quickly.. if you have the disposable income then go ahead, but keep in mind it doesn't get any cheaper than now..

don't tell me i didn't warn you 5 years from now when you have over 5000 posts on this site

 

[xtc27]

I hope this isn't the wrong place to post. I thought I'd post here because I'm located in Toronto and I wanted information from people who indulge in this lifestyle within the Toronto district (especially since the legal/social dynamics of this lifestyle differs from place to place). Just some information about me: I'm 25 years old. I'm a virgin and I've been suffering from loneliness for a while. I don't know how much longer I can take it, but I'm desperate to just hug a woman and see how it feels to hold someone. I would've hired a prostitute/escort YEARS ago. I'd dwell on this for years, but the only thing holding me back was the legal consequences of getting caught in a sting operation and losing my livelihood/freedom. That's pretty much my biggest fear. My other big fear was catching an STD.

1) What's the worst that could happen? Let's just say that I get caught in a sting operation, what do I do? Do I request a lawyer? I know it's considered really stupid to talk to the cops in this scenario, so what should I do if I get caught? I don't have a personal lawyer, so I'd probably have to ask for one of those "free ones" right? Has anyone here ever been caught in a sting operation previously? What was your experience and how did you resolve it?

2) Are there any reviewers on this website that I should be wary of? For example, are there any members on this site that are suspected to be undercover cops? Surely this can't be out of the bounds of possibility.

3) What's the situation like right now in the massage scene in terms of the Corona situation? Are girls less-willing to do certain things due to the pandemic?

4) I'm only into Asian girls. Honestly, they don't even have to be super hot or anything. I'm okay with an average/cute looking girl. Heck, I'll even go for milfs in their 40s. My limit is age 40 though.

5) How do I propose for "extra services?" So from what I understand, I have to call beforehand and make an appointment at a spa that has a girl who does "extra services." After signing up for the usual $30 massage, and go into the spa room, do I have to personally ask the girl for extra services? How much more money do I give her after that? Should I give the money first or after I've received extra services?

I hope this post wasn't too long/annoying. I know I sound like a newbie, but that's because I am. The reason I have so many questions is because I want to get all the information before I attempt anything. I want some pleasure in my life, but I don't want to screw up my life in the process. I'm not a bad guy by any means. I just want to experience some love, even if it's paid/fake. I've had ENOUGH loneliness. I'm honestly sad in this point in my life and would do anything for some romantic comfort.

... kinda surprised @UsefulIdiot hasn't chimed in... u should b hooking up w young hot chicks right now... I think dance halls are suggested,,,

... my experience, 99% time, chicks = out there, but u like girls that are harder 2 get... like that 200lb girl over there likes u, would u believe it? Prolly u would, & u wouldn't care... but some kinda girl likes u, not half bad, will make u VERY happy, till u dump her 4 another girl that likes u now that u are w someone...lower yr standards & get laid.

...anyway, if u visit spas, don't do anything 2 fuck up the future,,, no girl will EVER appreciate that u visited mp... take it 2 yr grave... yr best freind? He'll make it funny story @ yr stag... fiancees brother hears... wedding cancelled... like fight club, never talk about it... Don't flirt w girls @ Tim Hortons then go 2 spa next door.... don't let anyone see u, esp if u repeat... future in-laws could b anywhere...

...shower after spa visits... yr gonna be 2 clean when u go home... me, I bike, but nobody cares anyway.... go 2 gym or something 2 mess yrslf up a bit... unless u live totally alone...

...& if u are observed, have a story, a boring one... "Geez, I didn't know what they did there... wow, BIG surprise, left there inna hurry! Im such an idiot..." Or you got actual massage, declined anything else, saved $$$... etc.... but don't get caught. COVID makes disguise easy.

BBFS @ yr age = beyond crazy. Not readily avail at spas mentioned... but it is out there, & don't be stupid...

....BUDGET! Have gf/hobbying budget... gf cheaper, but complicated... less so when young... do not exceed that budget... but u can sacrifice other stuff to increase it.... I gave up hockey, baseball, starbucks. beer, TTC, restaurants... saves a ton... oh yeah, resaturants w/ gf = sex budget, its ok...

 

[jesseyhay]

I started when I was 25, accidentally, was offered hj at a legit spa. I searched for more options which led me to E&M.
This hobby is very addicting. If you cannot afford it, don't start. Expect to spend $100 a week once you get comfortable. Think I've spent at least 30k in the last 5 years. Some guys can easily spend 50k to 100K or more if they have good income.

 

[krayjee]

I started when I was 25, accidentally, was offered hj at a legit spa. I searched for more options which led me to E&M.
This hobby is very addicting. If you cannot afford it, don't start. Expect to spend $100 a week once you get comfortable. Think I've spent at least 30k in the last 5 years. Some guys can easily spend 50k to 100K or more if they have good income.

Are you trying to say I dragged you into E&M ?

 

[Jimchiu]

I hope this isn't the wrong place to post. I thought I'd post here because I'm located in Toronto and I wanted information from people who indulge in this lifestyle within the Toronto district (especially since the legal/social dynamics of this lifestyle differs from place to place). Just some information about me: I'm 25 years old. I'm a virgin and I've been suffering from loneliness for a while. I don't know how much longer I can take it, but I'm desperate to just hug a woman and see how it feels to hold someone. I would've hired a prostitute/escort YEARS ago. I'd dwell on this for years, but the only thing holding me back was the legal consequences of getting caught in a sting operation and losing my livelihood/freedom. That's pretty much my biggest fear. My other big fear was catching an STD.

1) What's the worst that could happen? Let's just say that I get caught in a sting operation, what do I do? Do I request a lawyer? I know it's considered really stupid to talk to the cops in this scenario, so what should I do if I get caught? I don't have a personal lawyer, so I'd probably have to ask for one of those "free ones" right? Has anyone here ever been caught in a sting operation previously? What was your experience and how did you resolve it?

2) Are there any reviewers on this website that I should be wary of? For example, are there any members on this site that are suspected to be undercover cops? Surely this can't be out of the bounds of possibility.

3) What's the situation like right now in the massage scene in terms of the Corona situation? Are girls less-willing to do certain things due to the pandemic?

4) I'm only into Asian girls. Honestly, they don't even have to be super hot or anything. I'm okay with an average/cute looking girl. Heck, I'll even go for milfs in their 40s. My limit is age 40 though.

5) How do I propose for "extra services?" So from what I understand, I have to call beforehand and make an appointment at a spa that has a girl who does "extra services." After signing up for the usual $30 massage, and go into the spa room, do I have to personally ask the girl for extra services? How much more money do I give her after that? Should I give the money first or after I've received extra services?

I hope this post wasn't too long/annoying. I know I sound like a newbie, but that's because I am. The reason I have so many questions is because I want to get all the information before I attempt anything. I want some pleasure in my life, but I don't want to screw up my life in the process. I'm not a bad guy by any means. I just want to experience some love, even if it's paid/fake. I've had ENOUGH loneliness. I'm honestly sad in this point in my life and would do anything for some romantic comfort.

Before you began, know that any types of pleasure has consequences coupled with it, if you've weighed the risks and after many years still feeling unsure, I say do not do it, because you don't know if you can handle the consequenses and lead to you making irrational decisions.

I don't think loneliness is your issue, because if it's loneliness, you won't find it here to fill the void. This hobby will gives you a thrill at first and after you'll end up chasing it instead of enjoying it. Do you want to fulfill your lust? Or friendship? How did you establish your preference in Asian girls? Do you find them attractive? Or do you find them interesting based on previous interactions? Beside sex, what other activities are you interested in doing with an Asian girl? What is an ideal date with an Asian girl in your mind? If you can answer these questions, write it down, and contact one of the more experienced/high end Asian Escorts and tell them the above. Usually they will charge less for a lunch date. They are very good at making you feel at ease and let you express yourself. After becoming somewhat comfortable with more intimate/personal interactions, then you will know what you really want.

Do not, Do not, Do not start with this hobby, you will get hurt and feel disappointed one day and may not be able to handle that disappointment rationally.

 

[UsefulIdiot]

... kinda surprised @UsefulIdiot hasn't chimed in... u should b hooking up w young hot chicks right now... I think dance halls are suggested,,,

Thanks for the mention. I am doing some personal work now and may have something to contribute later, but for now I do not have much to offer. To the OP - life is to be lived! You have to take chances. It is better to take a beating than to spend your life afraid of a fight. I think the best thing would be to ask a female friend to go on a “practice “ date. If that is not possible find a way to make some Asian friends - join a hobby club, take a class, etc. Stick with real experiences and save prostitution for later. There are a lot of nice Asian ladies out there. Put yourself out there and they may find you.

 

[Dongo]

... kinda surprised @UsefulIdiot hasn't chimed in... u should b hooking up w young hot chicks right now... I think dance halls are suggested,,,

... my experience, 99% time, chicks = out there, but u like girls that are harder 2 get... like that 200lb girl over there likes u, would u believe it? Prolly u would, & u wouldn't care... but some kinda girl likes u, not half bad, will make u VERY happy, till u dump her 4 another girl that likes u now that u are w someone...lower yr standards & get laid.

...anyway, if u visit spas, don't do anything 2 fuck up the future,,, no girl will EVER appreciate that u visited mp... take it 2 yr grave... yr best freind? He'll make it funny story @ yr stag... fiancees brother hears... wedding cancelled... like fight club, never talk about it... Don't flirt w girls @ Tim Hortons then go 2 spa next door.... don't let anyone see u, esp if u repeat... future in-laws could b anywhere...

...shower after spa visits... yr gonna be 2 clean when u go home... me, I bike, but nobody cares anyway.... go 2 gym or something 2 mess yrslf up a bit... unless u live totally alone...

...& if u are observed, have a story, a boring one... "Geez, I didn't know what they did there... wow, BIG surprise, left there inna hurry! Im such an idiot..." Or you got actual massage, declined anything else, saved $$$... etc.... but don't get caught. COVID makes disguise easy.

BBFS @ yr age = beyond crazy. Not readily avail at spas mentioned... but it is out there, & don't be stupid...

....BUDGET! Have gf/hobbying budget... gf cheaper, but complicated... less so when young... do not exceed that budget... but u can sacrifice other stuff to increase it.... I gave up hockey, baseball, starbucks. beer, TTC, restaurants... saves a ton... oh yeah, resaturants w/ gf = sex budget, its ok...

All of my lobbying life (many years) I have spent half of my money on women and drinking ........ the rest I just wasted.

 

[Pumpumslayer]

If you want fs from an asian, try shina at seductions. Go after midnight, ask her what's on the menu. Be prepared to spend 240. 140 to get in, 100 for fs. The 140 you pay the reception, the 100 u give the MPA for fs.

 

[jesseyhay]

Are you trying to say I dragged you into E&M ?

Nah, didn't meet you until a year after I got the addiction. You just add fuel to the fire.

 

[SumYang_KUM]

...allotta indy msg = scams / way overcharge 4 basic extras... u should name specific ones where u've had gd experience... indy msg girls could seriously be trafficked, not a joke...

This one is not Asian. She is Latina but for a start she is safe. Relaxing massage | Health & Beauty | Mississauga / Peel Region | Kijiji

 

[imyourpuppet]

I hope this isn't the wrong place to post. I thought I'd post here because I'm located in Toronto and I wanted information from people who indulge in this lifestyle within the Toronto district (especially since the legal/social dynamics of this lifestyle differs from place to place). Just some information about me: I'm 25 years old. I'm a virgin and I've been suffering from loneliness for a while. I don't know how much longer I can take it, but I'm desperate to just hug a woman and see how it feels to hold someone. I would've hired a prostitute/escort YEARS ago. I'd dwell on this for years, but the only thing holding me back was the legal consequences of getting caught in a sting operation and losing my livelihood/freedom. That's pretty much my biggest fear. My other big fear was catching an STD.

1) What's the worst that could happen? Let's just say that I get caught in a sting operation, what do I do? Do I request a lawyer? I know it's considered really stupid to talk to the cops in this scenario, so what should I do if I get caught? I don't have a personal lawyer, so I'd probably have to ask for one of those "free ones" right? Has anyone here ever been caught in a sting operation previously? What was your experience and how did you resolve it?

2) Are there any reviewers on this website that I should be wary of? For example, are there any members on this site that are suspected to be undercover cops? Surely this can't be out of the bounds of possibility.

3) What's the situation like right now in the massage scene in terms of the Corona situation? Are girls less-willing to do certain things due to the pandemic?

4) I'm only into Asian girls. Honestly, they don't even have to be super hot or anything. I'm okay with an average/cute looking girl. Heck, I'll even go for milfs in their 40s. My limit is age 40 though.

5) How do I propose for "extra services?" So from what I understand, I have to call beforehand and make an appointment at a spa that has a girl who does "extra services." After signing up for the usual $30 massage, and go into the spa room, do I have to personally ask the girl for extra services? How much more money do I give her after that? Should I give the money first or after I've received extra services?

I hope this post wasn't too long/annoying. I know I sound like a newbie, but that's because I am. The reason I have so many questions is because I want to get all the information before I attempt anything. I want some pleasure in my life, but I don't want to screw up my life in the process. I'm not a bad guy by any means. I just want to experience some love, even if it's paid/fake. I've had ENOUGH loneliness. I'm honestly sad in this point in my life and would do anything for some romantic comfort.

The best advice I can give you youngblood is to trust your instincts. If something feels off or too good to be true, it likely is. If you're looking to lose your virginity I'd look to do so with an experienced escort, not a massage parlor attendant. I'd go for a couple massages before jumping into that perhaps get a hand or mouth release first. Then graduate to full service.

 

[snoopdoggie]

The best advice I can give you youngblood is to trust your instincts. If something feels off or too good to be true, it likely is. If you're looking to lose your virginity I'd look to do so with an experienced escort, not a massage parlor attendant. I'd go for a couple massages before jumping into that perhaps get a hand or mouth release first. Then graduate to full service.

Then, and only then, he will earn his diploma.

 

[Massage_Kink_57]

Be careful what you wish for, it may come true.

No point crying once you are IN - takes a warrior lone-wolf attitude and mindset to get out of MP

Never fall in love - all MP fall in love with your cash