Jessica - Ocean Motion

[Christopher Moltisanto]

No, I meant that she purposely asks for a high amount hoping you say no because she doesn't want to do it.

Probably right.

 

[Mufflover]

Well, I am sorry to hear that things didn't work out for you, but surprised about a few things. Given that you had already agreed to 100 for CBJ, the additional 20 for CFS, which you say you prefer, seems like a great deal? I suggest you missed out on a great opportunity. Everyone seems to agree that the lady is very beautiful, friendly, great conversation, very popular, etc. For a lady like this, in a full hour session, I would expect price to be much higher, at least 160 for CFS. If you need some lower price service, then perhaps an older, less beautiful, less popular provider is going to meet your needs better.

Probably right.

 

[krayjee]

Probably right.

Don't feel bad man. You did much much better with some of the girls than me at other spas.. Sometimes you win, some times you lose. Can't win them all. She is one of the best for me for this year. Never said no to my gentle approaches, everything was on the menu and she was so into it and never mentioned about $$$. May be I was just her type. She can't stop talking about how smooth my skin was and how fit I was for my age.

 

[aa84aa]

Well, I am sorry to hear that things didn't work out for you, but surprised about a few things. Given that you had already agreed to 100 for CBJ, the additional 20 for CFS, which you say you prefer, seems like a great deal? I suggest you missed out on a great opportunity. Everyone seems to agree that the lady is very beautiful, friendly, great conversation, very popular, etc. For a lady like this, in a full hour session, I would expect price to be much higher, at least 160 for CFS. If you need some lower price service, then perhaps an older, less beautiful, less popular provider is going to meet your needs better.

My apologies. I see now that you offered 120 for CFS which was declined. Maybe because she doesn't offer that service, as most agree, or because amount too low as has been suggested.

You're a "New Member," joined back in "August 28, 2013," have never posted for 9+ years, until calling out @Christopher Moltisanto in being surprised for what he did or didn't do, and then apologize, after reading the thread again?

Hmmmm ...

 

[Bigfatguy]

Well..how about this guy who posted right after my review. He got pretty much the same as me.
He who knows how to make a girl laugh ?

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Saw her recently, she told me she's 50% chinese, 25% viet, 25% french. Good looking woman.

I want to know what kind of jokes @krayjee is telling. I had a very similar session with Jessica where she was laughing at everything I was saying. I am pretty hilarious though. Jessica's massage is really good. And so is her DT skills.

You're a "New Member," joined back in "August 28, 2013," have never posted for 9+ years, until calling out @Christopher Moltisanto in being surprised for what he did or didn't do, and then apologize, after reading the thread again?

Hmmmm ...

Dude has a point though. A cheap fs with an sp is 80-100$ for 30 min . Why would a girl whom you guys say is beautiful do an hour long session for the price of half hour. 160$
would be more reasonable rate for 1 hour. This is just on average and I’m sure there are girls who have regulars who get discounts….

 

[aa84aa]

Dude has a point though. A cheap fs with an sp is 80-100$ for 30 min . Why would a girl whom you guys say is beautiful do an hour long session for the price of half hour. 160$
would be more reasonable rate for 1 hour. This is just on average and I’m sure there are girls who have regulars who get discounts….

Tipping while not standardized to every spa is generally understood to be in the ballpark we are all talking about for services received. We are not talking about $20, expecting everything. We are talking in the $120+ range for FS (and all-in $180+ for the hour). There is a difference generally between semi and holistic, as are room rates (for an hr $80, instead of $60). Are we saying OM is a semi or holistic spa? As there are different expectations. We’re not expecting a good massage at a holistic, as we’re there for other services.

My main point was calling out someone for their two most recent (only) posts and not reading through, AND for their posting history. More importantly, this discussion takes away from the reason for the post, the review. If Jessica wants to position herself at a higher level she is free to do so. Just help us manage our expectations, so we can decide whether to see her beautiful self.

We have a good number of review posts where someone shares their experience and observations and it gets slammed or filled with unrelated stuff. Yes, tipping level is related to service, so am not disagreeing with those posts. But as stated above, am pointing out the discrepancy of the poster calling out the original reviewer.

 

[Mufflover]

I changed my behaviour to defend a lady, of whom I have long been a happy customer, and to defend her good reputation regarding how she earns her living.

I called out the OP because it appears he agreed to the offered service and then tried to force more (bb, cfs), ostensibly for the same price. And then offered a measly $20, in a full hour session. Nevertheless, he apparently received the original service and a happy ending. So why is he complaining? Coming on here and making a big fuss, getting the lady jammed up with her customers, maybe her boss, forcing her boss to have to jump in as well.

As for Krajee (who I met 20+ years ago) getting bb, maybe he only “thinks” he got bb? Have you ever had a provider use their mouth to apply the condom and then give such a good bj and dt that you didn’t realize condom was there?

 

[Christopher Moltisanto]

I changed my behaviour to defend a lady, of whom I have long been a happy customer, and to defend her good reputation regarding how she earns her living.

I called out the OP because it appears he agreed to the offered service and then tried to force more (bb, cfs), ostensibly for the same price. And then offered a measly $20, in a full hour session. Nevertheless, he apparently received the original service and a happy ending. So why is he complaining? Coming on here and making a big fuss, getting the lady jammed up with her customers, maybe her boss, forcing her boss to have to jump in as well.

All tolled, I consider the OP’s behaviour in this instance to be selfish, rude, cheap and disrespectful of women. I believe he owes everyone an apology.

As for Krajee (who I met 20+ years ago) getting bb, maybe he only “thinks” he got bb? Have you ever had a provider use their mouth to apply the condom and then give such a good bj and dt that you didn’t realize condom was there?

I agreed to 100 for a bj not a cbj. If I'd known she was offering the latter, I would not have agreed to the service and would have simply enjoyed the therapeutic massage and perhaps a BS for 80.

You also seem to not understand the difference in tip structure between a semi legit spa and a holistic one.

 

[Marblehead]

I heard that Jessica was skilled at BBBJDT so figured this was a good day to try her service as had time off work to drive up to Vaughan.

Good first impression as she's attractive and slim --- the session started off friendly with great conversation, joking around and flirting.

She asked me the type of massage and I requested hard -- more so got medium, but was fine as any massage was welcome given the way my body was feeling.

A bit of teasing and then after the flip, she asked me what service I wanted - she mentioned BS and BJ on her menu -- went with BJ and we agreed on 100.

She started with some great BLS but then grabbed her purse and went to put on a condom ...I gently asked for BBBJ but she said she didn't do that. I wasn't in the mood to debate, so went with it, and figured I'd likely transition to CFS since I really don't care for CBJ finish.

Her technique was solid between the BLS and the tongue flicking, but no DT really as she only got half way down.

I asked her again to consider removing the condom but she said no....and she then delivered a lecture about how us guys should be concerned with STDs etc -- the mood was heading downwards, so I asked her to forget the CBJ so we could fuck; and then she said well that was a different service; so I offered her 120 but she said that was not enough because I had booked an hour etc. At this point, mood was going downhill so I just asked for a HJ finish as the CBJ was not my thing. Also she said no to kissing when the fun began, so definitely was not a GFE.

I know others have had much better luck with her, but as much as things started well, she was restrictive where I was concerned. Perhaps a typical case of YMMV.

My expectations were high, so a definite no repeat for me.

Thanks for saving me time and money, she was on my td list, just been removed.

 

[Marblehead]

I changed my behaviour to defend a lady, of whom I have long been a happy customer, and to defend her good reputation regarding how she earns her living.

I called out the OP because it appears he agreed to the offered service and then tried to force more (bb, cfs), ostensibly for the same price. And then offered a measly $20, in a full hour session. Nevertheless, he apparently received the original service and a happy ending. So why is he complaining? Coming on here and making a big fuss, getting the lady jammed up with her customers, maybe her boss, forcing her boss to have to jump in as well.

All tolled, I consider the OP’s behaviour in this instance to be selfish, rude, cheap and disrespectful of women. I believe he owes everyone an apology.

As for Krajee (who I met 20+ years ago) getting bb, maybe he only “thinks” he got bb? Have you ever had a provider use their mouth to apply the condom and then give such a good bj and dt that you didn’t realize condom was there?

Hmm, looking back at this thread and I don’t see anyone asking for your fukin opinion.

 

[Whitestorm88]

She came from VIP and started to do semi legit.. she works at another semi spa and she only offers CBJ.. Even tho I seen her at VIP and got BBBJ with CIM she still declined.. When I asked her… she simply told me she no longer does that.. i then have to respect her decision…

 

[Marblehead]

Don't feel bad man. You did much much better with some of the girls than me at other spas.. Sometimes you win, some times you lose. Can't win them all. She is one of the best for me for this year. Never said no to my gentle approaches, everything was on the menu and she was so into it and never mentioned about $$$. May be I was just her type. She can't stop talking about how smooth my skin was and how fit I was for my age.

Or maybe she knows who you are and that you’ll spread the word about how great she is. Then the rest of us get less than expected. If this is the same mpa that works another vaughan spa as Rachel, I can concur with the OP, disappointed and wouldn’t repeat. And she sure ain’t that great looking.

 

[krayjee]

Or maybe she knows who you are and that you’ll spread the word about how great she is. Then the rest of us get less than expected. If this is the same mpa that works another vaughan spa as Rachel, I can concur with the OP, disappointed and wouldn’t repeat. And she sure ain’t that great looking.

She sure knows who I was. She said Are you KJ. She heard some bad things about me from some girls , but also some good things too.. I made her laugh by joking around by saying "hey Old man can't please everyone" and such and showed her how Bobo apologized after bashing me.

 

[Christopher Moltisanto]

She came from VIP and started to do semi legit.. she works at another semi spa and she only offers CBJ.. Even tho I seen her at VIP and got BBBJ with CIM she still declined.. When I asked her… she simply told me she no longer does that.. i then have to respect her decision…

She does more than CBJ at both semi's ...that's why I had higher expectations.

That said, to your point, it's her prerogative to offer whatever she wants and be more restrictive whenever she wants.

 

[Whitestorm88]

She does more than CBJ at both semi's ...that's why I had higher expectations.

That said, to your point, it's her prerogative to offer whatever she wants and be more restrictive whenever she wants.

True.. That’s why I don’t see her anymore.. Even tho she offered more then became restrictive… There are plenty of other woman to see..

 

[aa84aa]

True.. That’s why I don’t see her anymore.. Even tho she offered more then became restrictive… There are plenty of other woman to see..

Well said. That's the reality of dozens of spas nearby with plenty of others to see.

 

[aa84aa]

I changed my behaviour to defend a lady, of whom I have long been a happy customer, and to defend her good reputation regarding how she earns her living.

And there's the truth: "defend," "long been," "defend," and "earns."

 

[TheWhiteShadow]

I changed my behaviour to defend a lady, of whom I have long been a happy customer, and to defend her good reputation regarding how she earns her living.

I called out the OP because it appears he agreed to the offered service and then tried to force more (bb, cfs), ostensibly for the same price. And then offered a measly $20, in a full hour session. Nevertheless, he apparently received the original service and a happy ending. So why is he complaining? Coming on here and making a big fuss, getting the lady jammed up with her customers, maybe her boss, forcing her boss to have to jump in as well.

All tolled, I consider the OP’s behaviour in this instance to be selfish, rude, cheap and disrespectful of women. I believe he owes everyone an apology.

As for Krajee (who I met 20+ years ago) getting bb, maybe he only “thinks” he got bb? Have you ever had a provider use their mouth to apply the condom and then give such a good bj and dt that you didn’t realize condom was there?

Not sure why you see the need to defend her reputation? No one was bashing her. Just a honest review, where he actually said she was pretty and slim, and general a nice girl.
He even stated that must be a case of YMMV, as clearly she has done everything he asked for in the past. Her right to change what services she offers, and he was ok with that.

 

[Buaya]

Not sure why you see the need to defend her reputation? No one was bashing her. Just a honest review, where he actually said she was pretty and slim, and general a nice girl.
He even stated that must be a case of YMMV, as clearly she has done everything he asked for in the past. Her right to change what services she offers, and he was ok with that.

It is a MPA's prerogative to change her offerings to who and when she wants to. Just like it is ours to decide if we want to partake in them

Which is one of the reason why whenever reviews are posted here, especially when extras were highlighted (maybe to brag?) by a reviewer it will bring a lot of newbees to think that it is the normal and fully given at all times.

This had created many scenes at MP as well as drive some MPA's away. Harassment is a major issue here especially if some short sighted Owners do not support their girls in the hunt for the almighty Room Fee.

 

[TheWhiteShadow]

It is a MPA's prerogative to change her offerings to who and when she wants to. Just like it is ours to decide if we want to partake in them

Which is one of the reason why whenever reviews are posted here, especially when extras were highlighted (maybe to brag?) by a reviewer it will bring a lot of newbees to think that it is the normal and fully given at all times.

This had created many scenes at MP as well as drive some MPA's away. Harassment is a major issue here especially if some short sighted Owners do not support their girls in the hunt for the almighty Room Fee.

When a MPA chooses to scale back her services, the spas they work for and promoters should stop advertising those services. Maybe it’s a case of MPA is selective who they offer to. By that I mean offering services to someone they know will review them favourably which will drive customers there. Then in the room it’s easy to say, sorry I don’t offer that service anymore.