Karen home massage

Review by ckee who went up karen place at clementi on wednesday afternoon

When she(KAREN) flipped me over, I had access to her raspberries and tweaked. She brushed my hand aside and said that i no big no small. Not fierce and demanding but just a slap on my wrist. Next I placed my hand and caressed her butt and outline of her panty (small, palm-sized butt) and she ok with it. So I got the hint and never went any further. When she down bloused I could see her orange sized "Reviewootzz" and of course I gian - but dun want to offend her. So went to the toilet kn the kitchen to shower and quickly proceeded to JSP level 4 and loaded on Gall 66 tits (see my Review on JSP later). Paid $40 and left Karen place and of course I will be back. Then realised that she actually took more than 1hr 20 mins for the masg. As I enjoyed her skills so much the longer session was deemed a huge bonus.
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To ckee, nice Review although no fj hj:

should tell her if i give u $20 , u let me tweak nipples , and i also want to
play play yr butt, i add another 10.

i think she would accept the offer. becos clean job , no need to clean up cum.

her Reviewootzz should be small orange type , sagging , she told me that young gal that time dont wear bra.
and she told me when at home she don wear bra everyday.
 
REF:
KAREN HOME MASSAGE

"She then asked whether or AV or HDB would come cheong kong her place if they knw her activities. Not waiting for my reply she mentioned that now she only masg regulars."

BROS who went up to her place pls dont mention about sammyboy.
Just say phone no. get Reviewom Reviewiend.

she very nervous about about ppl tok about her activities, also so scare
av and hdb officer come knock her door.
Hdb can come for any inspection they like, they jus say water leak downstair
or neighbour complain noisy she hv to open the door, they would then check
on her massage bed and chair which she store in her comm rm.
 
should tell her if i give u $20 , u let me tweak nipples , and i also want to play play yr butt, i add another 10.
i think she would accept the offer. becos clean job , no need to clean up cum.
her Reviewootzz should be small orange type , sagging , she told me that young gal that time dont wear bra. and she told me when at home she don wear bra everyday.[/QUOTE]

Ok next time will try and lure with the $ carrot :) Yes sireee her Reviewootzz small orange like - similar to the "kum" Chinese use during Chinese New Year...of course her skin unblemished and not pock-marked lah like "kum" lah...she also mentioned tt when at home, she always dun wear bra one as it's not comfy - me tried to psycho her saying that she dun wear bra and me gian, so how to resolve? But our dear old Karen adamant that no no so have to tahan
 
Comment by bro JCJ1972 in my pm box:


"Well Bro, I did call on her(karen), she invited m e to Beo Cresent because she did not know me, at one look wat u discript & wat I saw totally different,Bro,figure like bamboo stick & no big boobs,was sad wondering was it the right girl,she said not feeling well somemore asked her partner to give me massage, I think the chinese guy did a great job I felt reRevieweshed after the massage,but would like --\ 2 j c real karan "

That skinny auntie is real karen, not really bamboo stick but skinny thats all.
No big boob is correct.

The china guy is at karen place do home foot massage
 
bro want foot masg can go to
Karen house to try her worker
mr wang a prc train in china,
He statiูn there . Karen can arrange this service , also have
Body masg by mr wang .

Mr wang and karen is also conducting massage lesson at her place. Interested to learn
Chinese Tui na can ask karen to
Arrange
 
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Still about her bra, she had many old bra . When she go out she wear loose old bra, she bend down at the bus stop and scratch
Her leg ,can almost see her pinkish nipple.
She sit a the hall repair her bra , i didnt knoe , watching tv. Turn my head gosh ! She flipping around her bra , i feel malu.
Wraping a white towel she come out Reviewom her room she ask me to logon on internet to check for something , can see her towel dropping down exposing her fair butt , she ask me to use the computer, while she go back to the room to wash my cum, she said veri sticky.
She promise me one thing few yr back tat she will wear G String let
Me see , so i come to her house tat was few yr back , my first home masg with her. No ppl at home ,gal n niece not at home
Have my first fj with her , i veri
Scare , dont knoe got husband
Or boyReviewiend or not , keep asking
Got boyReviewiend or not.
Saw some men undewear in her room , she said belูng to her cousin.
Now got one china man boyReviewiend
I dare not do fj with her anymore,
Maybe outside is ok . But would
The feeling of her prc man.
 
any bro get hj Reviewom her after persuasion?
try to understand more abt her style ,
her daughter around cound be a problem
Maybe she double standard after i scan thr all Review.
NOw got china man around and old auntie.
 
She promise me one thing few yr back tat she will wear G String let
Me see , so i come to her house tat was few yr back , my first home masg with her. No ppl at home ,gal n niece not at home
Have my first fj with her , i veri
Scare , dont knoe got husband
Or boyReviewiend or not , keep asking
Got boyReviewiend or not.
Saw some men undewear in her room , she said belูng to her cousin.
Now got one china man boyReviewiend
I dare not do fj with her anymore,
Maybe outside is ok . But would
hurt the feeling of her prc man.[/QUOTE]

My first visit to karen place. Me also quite confuse n scare as saw
Men shirt hanging next to a big
Ward robe
Also saw a few men underwear hanging at the window
Drying.

Quickly fj her on her bed
Then pay her and left .
Keep asking her got husband or boyReviewiend or not.
She said her cousin stay there,
Worry tat he will come back ,quickly left the place.

Now got one china guy there , we
Hv to be more careful not to hurt
Their feeling, and their relationship.
 
karen told me she no more doing Home Massage , want to spent time set up shop with her china
Reviewiend.
 
bros, do not pass karen hp number to other, thk for the
Cooperation.
 
she told me on thusday , that she want to stop all home massage and concentrate on
Shop business with her china Reviewiend.
 
Rgr tat brother !

initially wanted to try her, but these few wks cannot find the time to do so...
thanks for the contact anyway ! :D
 
Karen no more doing home massage . She want to do business with her china Reviewiend.
She grumble at me on saturday,that many people still phone her hp.
(this what i get Reviewom her for helping, but i understand,
Now she no more starving, situatiูn had changed)
 
will get pork chop or not?
If make love with her and her
Reviewiend pop into room saw us
Doing fj on their bed.
 
Ohh... so now even got her number also cant call le... thank for the effort bro Chukeliang:)
 
last week tried changli , recommend by ppl here , the no. i request Reviewom TS see his thread at......
http://www.massageplanet.com/health...-foot-massage-body-massage-bj-bbbj-hj-fj.html

$50 for foot massage abt 15min, cut toe nail, hard massage , tui na type, include Reviewont n back, fj , and hj, all in 90min exlcude bathing time.

Name : Changli , Reviewom sheng yang, china north eastern
age: 38, as told by ts, but she told me she 45 oredi.
me dont bother about tis.
Tall , fair , 1.68m maybe.
34 B boob , still firm for her age,
strong and slim body, nice leg n thigh.
face not pretty, but she not ugly
face got blemish skin,
she told me she sell cook rice in china
and want to earn money to setup a massage if go back to china.
she hold a certification in TCM massage , she show me a red booklet
with her photo on it.
she said she spent RMB 20,000 to complete the course , tat wat she said.


massage 7/10, 50 min
mainly pressing a accupoint, she use mostly her strong thumb to rub along the merriden of my back shoulder blade, until its hot.

foot massage 7/10 15min
she applly cream.
hj 7/10, use oil
fj 5/10, must capped,cant ejac, go back to hj,
ask her to slow the tempo and concentrate on the small head cap.
as she stoke it, got jig jig sound veri shiok, like fu*king w/o cap.


price $50, tip her $10, as she said if take fj must tip her abit
after the job she spent longer time to wash up, and make her body clean.
she put back her bra, and i request to hug her again as i saw she look nice with bra ON. she obliged, smell her neh again, nice smell not bad.

walk her down stair and she went back to get more client.

( she also told me she stand around OG, Macdonald kentucky at ppcomp, and also ask people walking to tried her.)
 
for bro who ask me any other home massage,

ref: sembawang home massage
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Name of masseuse: Ann
Gal~ slim tall ard 25yo
House 5rm ea condo
Rm ~ aircon
Masg bed~ like those in spa
Inside a dedicated com rm for massage and facial use only.
Masg light to medium strength ,full0 body
Except head face and foot
She spent quite alot on her working gadget
Good skill no cheat time
Nice n cooling n smoothing masg
Thick creamy lotion used, not those hc centre type.
Not oily
Paid $30, serve drink,
she issue me a receipt, she said is for her account.
i think she share the business with some one.

She skinny,bundled a pony tail
Sharp face like karen.
Must get detail of the place Reviewom
Labbitan at fl dome 2


Upon reaching the blk which only 5min away mrt, labbitan will sms unit no.
Climb upstair corner flat
press bell, a skinny pony
Tail gal open the tall, she very young , very small boobs like karen's home masg at clementi, but dont expect her to wear
dun expect her to wear Hot pant n singlet bra-less .
She worn a pajama and t shirt, very innocent look.

Die already, sure no roaming n tweaking of nipple.

Overall a light sู‘othing masg by a gal next door type ,as i stay a few block away her block , so i quickly go and try .

She told me her boyReviewiend or husband is in the next room.
My first question to her i ask any ppl at home,she told me husband,
Must be dam strong . Saw some
Body building weight in the hall .
Liao already sure no special becos
Got husband around , no children ard but her man around.
Lie down there , jus enjoy the masg and nvr dare to ask for special.
Overall-worth the $30.
Will return if lazy to travel far for masg.

All samster get ph no. Reviewom labbitan at fl dome 2.
Not gal ph no. But labbitan ph no.
labbitan will sms u block no., then u reach there , he sms u unit no.


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u want her to masg u ? Becare ful she do stepping,
Her masg med to hard strength
Fingerpress rho shwr certified
And swedish oil , body masg,
And foot masg. 100% no special.
50yo
Fair , medium build
Talk alot , and worker also gossip her alot. Try amy her gal , big boob . Hj $20

At ppc comp 03 38, she(june) there after 11am, everyday.
Masg $40p hr
Foot 20 per 45 min,
I recommend foot also becos not
Painful.
Next door 03 37
Got another amy , english speaking .
Formerly masg shop boss,
Now work for china woman boss,
China woman last time work for her , make alot $ thr' fj.
(becareful trend reversal)
 
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    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Lisa ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
  26. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: For Tuesday November 12, 2024, our attendants will be Ada โค๏ธ, Cici ๐Ÿ˜, Yoyo ๐Ÿคฉ, Ivy ๐Ÿ˜˜ and Christina ๐Ÿ”ฅ Call us at 905-479-6668 to book your favourite!
  27. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Yoyo has joined Angela & Noor for the evening ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  28. Newspring@:
    Nu spring spa โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅsexy hot Latino ๐ŸŒธSingapore ๐ŸŒธKorean girls working at Markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ7-15 Karachi dr Markham
  29. New Oriental Health Centre:
    โค๏ธ Phoenix has joined Nayla & New Girl Kelly Tonight ๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  30. vnycool:
    Mumbai
  31. Shangri-la Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’– MakeIt Monday ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– your ultimate destination for luxury Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakville. ๐ŸŒŽ๐ŸŒ9 stunning Girls from China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” 34D Suki, Cindy, Selena, Kelly, Amber, Busty Echo, JPN Yui, RMT Miya & ๐Ÿ†•Jessica โ€” ๐Ÿง˜โ€โ™€โœจTable Shower special on ๐Ÿ๐ŸŽˆ Hit up 647-695-6354๐Ÿค™ or text to ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169 โœจ160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, Richmond Hill ๐Ÿ’ฐLet the fun times roll, baby!๐Ÿ™Œ
  32. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Kelly ,New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Baby ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  33. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  34. Sunrise Spa:
    ๐Ÿ˜˜ We have a wonderful Asian spa in downtown Toronto ๐Ÿ˜˜ 302 Adelaide St W, 2nd Floor ๐Ÿ˜˜ Today is Mika, Apple and Kitty ๐Ÿ˜˜ 416-916-7276
  35. #203MoMo&Beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 white skin Latin Spanish girl &Asian girl today /// Young curvy body Colombia girl in Tuesday
  36. Sparkling Spa:
    Sexy Korean Massage Girl Summer is working at Sparkling Spa with Service Queen Zoe today. Real pictures of Summer & Zoe๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏCall or text to book appointment ๐Ÿ“ฒ โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY
  37. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐Ÿ’„๐Ÿ˜ป Wonder spa [9421Jane st unit 127)Please โ˜Ž๏ธ4165000-800,4young girl working every day,๐Ÿ’„Amy is Vietnamese young sex girl,open maid,๐Ÿ’„Mimi is younge sexy girl beautiful face long leg,most of all she know how to make man happy,๐Ÿ’„Mina is36DCup smooth skin ,she can provide back walking nice body slide,get more experience soft to medium, must try๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐ŸŒบ
  38. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ LUCY, ASHA, NISHA, ANGEL, MEERA, DIYA, NUR, PAYAL PEARL, MIMI ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  39. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Rose๐ŸŒน - A sexy new addition to our lin
  40. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธYoyo๐ŸŒธCarly๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธTania Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  41. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธIvy๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธCassyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  42. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young new cute Lily with curve boys 25โ€™s and young slime super GFE 30โ€™s open mind, pretty Ella and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  43. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa, : AMY (12pm โ€“ 9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. LISA (12pm-9pm): is a Korean internet celebrity, young early 20โ€™s, milky white skin
  44. See You Health Center:
    Sasa Very Sexy Vietnamese friendly and milfy . body is amazing Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl 5โ€™ 2โ€, 100 lbs black Hairโ€จGFE, BBbj, DFK Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  45. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  46. New Oriental Health Centre:
    โค๏ธ Nayla & New Girl Kelly is here today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  47. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  48. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Angela & Noor are here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  49. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Summer โค๏ธ has nice sexy body, and nice breasts. She can give very good massage and fun service. Very sexy, and so friendly. Beautiful girl with great massage skills and willing to give you a happy fun session multiple times if you
  50. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž This is the only official schedule for AMORE SPA: Monday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY & Tiny Spinner LALA CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. Tiny LALA is unbelievably good
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