money 1st or after session?

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I 've found through out the many, many and costly years that the girls who give the best service are the ones who don't ask for the money up front. What do you guys think?
 
It doesn't really matter.

The reason why I say this is because most times when they will ask is because you are a first time client and they don't know you. Repeat sessions are always better because they know you already so the $$$ factor hardly plays a part, of course that "stiff the bill" factor may still be in her mind.

Some MPAs have gotten stiff before so when you give them the cash it sort of lifts the burden. Some places it doesn't matter if you have repeated they still ask for the $$$ upfront. Blame the stupid fucks that walked out without paying for setting the mood.

I find that when they ask for the $$$ during the session it actually puts a bummer into my session by breaking the mood.

VBB
 
in a way I understand why at times we are asked for money up front...but i have to agree with the fact that almost all good sessions - money is given after....

somehow when the whole issue of paying up front comes out - makes it a lil uncomfortable and makes it feel weird....the girls always try and come up with some sort of excuse for the money up front thing...to me though... what matters is service...whether i pay before or after...as long as the session goes off well....it dosent really matter..
 
a recent thread which sorta addresses the topic here

I tend to think that generally it doesn't matter, but ultimately in my experience those sessions that are taken to that overall higher plane the money was paid after.

Metaphysically speaking ... ow ...huh .. yeah yeah ... seems visiting hours are over.
 
Establishment fee up front ok, other fees nope. If I get that I leave. When I didnt used to leave I really noticed that money after was 9 times out of 10 a better session....you don't get paid at work before you have done any work right?
 
Doesn't really matter to me.

Most of the time i'm happy to give the ladies their dough up front before they even ask. Might as well get it out of the way and just get down to business. You usually settle on something upfront and cash is discussed, so why wait then? If the girl is really pushy or adament about getting her cash right away, then that's a big time turn off.

Keep it real,

NB
 
I usually stick to my regular MPAs and when I am seeking out someone new
it usually takes place in a MP which I am familiar with on its price structure
and the quality of the girls in general.

The first thing I do after I am taken into a room is to leave the tip
at a spot where the girl will notice. Then I proceed to take a shower and
lie down on the table. When my regular comes in they usually don't
bother to pick up the tip until the end of the session--they know I always
tip consistently. If it is a first encounter
the MPA would ask me what extra I am interested in. A shy one may just
wait until I tell her first I've left a tip for extra. For the 1st time MPA
I usually tip between the top and the middle of the price menu. I would just tell
them whatever service available is fine with me.
And during the session I usually refrain from testing
her limit. Perhaps it is just a matter lof luck.
None of the 1st time MPAs I saw ever tried to talk
me into an upgrade of the service I paid for.

So in my sessions there were no money changing hands face to face,
no bargaining, no preliminary inspection of the MPA's look and body on my part
to decide if they are worth any extra.
The MPAs I see won't even have a chance to ask me
for tips upfront. I can only say that over many yeaers of hobbying
I consistently receive above average services from those who
value a first time client who put them at ease in one of the
most mercenary and deceptive business.
 
I have found my sessions to be better when money is paid at the end.

Even if it is my first time with a particular MPA, I am rarely asked for money upfront. A lot has to do with how the MPA perceives you and in her attitude. I wouldn't mind if the MPA requested the damage upfront, but what can be a turn-off is the way she says it. I would totally be turned off if an MPA just said "Can I have my money now ?". This has happened to me, and once the session began, it became quite evident that the MPA was a cold-fish. On the other hand, if the MPA came out and asked politely, I would be more than willing to pay the money at the beginning.
 
I prefer paying at the end.
But it really depends, At all the major mp's like Allure,Srm,HFh,and IT the normal practice is paying just for the room initially and then pay the mpa after the session ,so there is no issue there.
But at the lower end spa's the girls usually ask for money upfront mayb e becuse they get burnt more often there.
I don't mind paying upfront if the mpa asks but the biggest turn off for me is when they get you in the mood and in the middle of the session they ask you to get up and pay them.(So you get up from the massage table and go through you clothing to find the damn wallet pay her put the wallet back in get back on the massage table and try to get back in the same mood as before).
 
I concur with Red,
VBB and Oil & Gas seem to know exactly how it works,
both from different perspectives.
Unfortunately we live in a imperfect world, and there
are some guys that VBB have mentioned that do engage
in this type of cheap, dishonest behavour, of running out
on the lady without paying. Fortunately most guys are
classy, and it does not happen too frequently, but it
does happen. So the ladies are quite apprehensive of
any new client until they get to know them,
and have a long memory for bad experiences.
So perhaps a little consideration might go a long way.
To me it's sounds that Oil & Gas has got this hobby
down to a true science. I take my hat off to you!
 
Kind of off topic, kinda' on...

I just got back from a place at Kipling and Bloor. I've seen this place many times while driving home and was always curious as to what they had to offer. There was an asian girl who answered the phone, so I thought that maybe it was worth a look-see. Took the BS and was not impressed. Like a lot of EBCers, she looked better with her clothes on. 40/60 in all and she asked for it up front.

I don't know why I do this sometimes. I guess I'm looking for a diamond in the rough when I check out these no-name places. I had an amazing session with Katie a couple of weeks back, and driving away I couldn't help but think to myself, how much more she is worth the 100 clams. For the extra $, I should've driven to Missy Soggy and tried to see Tarah or Brit'ney.

I always say to myself, "no more no-names" but I'm sure that one day when I'm thinking "below the belt"........
 
To be VERY clear, I NEVER repeat with anyone who demands money before I'm DRESSED, let alone done.

I'm probably too much of a pussy to actually walk out if they demand money up front, but I'd sure want to. This has only happened to me once or twice.

I've had one or two demand money before I'm dressed, and I just find it disgusting. Let me wipe the fucking cum off my stomach before I'm fishing around in my wallet.

The fantasy is that it's not about the money, it's about the connection, and oh yeah, here's some cash. It's also decidedly ungentlemanly to handle money upfront - implies no trust in me.

The final point is that I haven't even picked an "option" yet. OK, OK, so I'm always going to take the top option, but don't fucking assume that.
 
Up front is the way to go.

If you're seeing someone you know its mice to just get it out of the way and neither of you have to think about it.

This is also good for someone new since they will no longer have to worry about getting short changed. If they are relaxed and in a good mood hopefully you will too.

We all know how much the appropriate tip is so just pay up. any mpa who's rates fluctuate should be avoided. I like spas that have fixed rates so theirs never any debate.

I think when you tip afterwards YMMV depending on the mindset of the mpa. Besides I think the best service is from an mpa that you've seen before. MPAs are more likely to give you a better session if they know you and are comfortable with you. I've had one mpa confess that when she has a new client she has a set routine because of the uncertainty of someone new. and I can attest that her sessions are really good.
 
I pay first at the fast food joints, the fine dining places offer up the bill after
I have began digesting the meal and have loosened up the belt buckle. That
said, the food at the fast food joints sometimes is much better than at the
fine dining places and alot cheaper....same analogy with the MPAs and only, the mind and the pocket book know the difference, the gonads don't.
 
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    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️ (647) 891-9688☎️ ☎️ (416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Yoyo 😍is beautiful tall sexy student. She has nice bum and very good massage and has great playful service. Such a beautiful sexy smile. She knows how too please you with her slim sexy body and bring joy and happiness😍Real pictures
  36. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at ❤️💙 💜𝗦𝗨𝗚𝗔𝗥 𝗟𝗢𝗩𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔💖💗💘: CHERRY, LILY & TIFFANY. EVENING: ELLIS 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON ☎ 𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟯𝟲𝟱-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎ CHERRY is a young, slim, friendly and absolutely gorgeous Vietnamese beauty, 49 Kgs with Bounteous D Cups. Real pics, unreal services! BBBJ, shower together, full menu. LILY is a beautiful slim Thai lady, petite with C Cups & a nice medium sized ass.
  37. Dreaminn:
    FRIDAY at 💭𝗗𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗠 𝗜𝗡𝗡 𝗪𝗘𝗟𝗟𝗡𝗘𝗦𝗦 𝗦𝗣𝗔💭: CANDY, LULU & TINA. 10225 Yonge St (North of Major Mackenzie), Richmond Hill, ON ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟮𝟵-𝟮𝟵𝟴𝟯 ☎️ CANDY is an attractive Chinese girl, mid 20’s, 167Cms & 110 Lbs with D Cups and very versatile menu. LULU is a very popular & well known Chinese attendant, slim and beautiful with 34C Cups, long sexy legs, and incredible services. New VICTORIA
  38. bnwellness_wilson:
    Blue Nile Wellness Center, we have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, new sweet young Hanna 22’s and sexy Coco, young fun Tina with curve body open mind and pretty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in aways welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  39. Doing you a favor:
    4 hands massage/30 minutes only $70 Until august 31st. At IU Wellness and Beauty Center..... 7220 Kennedy Rd, unit #2B.
  40. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa 🌹🌹🌹5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke☎️416-817-3366 New girl Ivy big boobs 36DD 😘😘😘😘Hot and sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service😘😘😘,Nancy professional super Thai deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise😍😍😍😍❤️You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the back door with plenty of parking spaces
  41. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa 🌹🌹🌹🌹 New girls big boobs 36DDD Nancy and Vicky sexy body nice girls petite awesome body slide hot service 5124 Dundas W Etobicoke☎️416-817-3366
  42. hiyamickey:
    Reinella wellness have 6 girls working today: young Indian students girl Kritka, 20s, Amy, Victoria, Jenny, Ella, and Grace working @6262 hwy 7 until #1 Vaughan,☎️: 905-851-4888
  43. See You Health Center:
    Natalie 💕 She is from Philippines CBC Petite school girl 5’ 1”, 98 lbs black Hair
Great BBJ,Provides Excellent Service 🥑🥑Lin💕
Very Young, Petite
Vietnamese Student
With Spicy Slim Body
5’ 1”, 100 lbs Blonde Hair
Great BBJ, CIM 
 🥑🥑Cici💕 Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service ☎ 416-988-2950
  44. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami💕 Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl She is 5’ 2” tall, 98 Lbs With D Cup Melons Great Fashion Style ☘️☘️ Judy 💕 is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl She is 5’2”tall. 100Lbs, with C Cup Melons She is very Sweet Provides Excellent Customer Service ☘️☘️ Suki 💕 From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples ☎ 416-988-2950
  45. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 9 hot brown girls today 🌸 MOON, MALIYA, NISHA, ANGEL, LUCY, MIA, SARIKA, SANA, KIRAN, ANAYA 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  46. Healthy Lotus Wellness Centre:
    ❤ We provide beautiful Oriental massage in Mississauga ❤ Today is Amanda and Jessie ❤ 1550 South Gateway Rd ❤ (647) 407-8338 ❤ We have friendly curvy ladies
  47. Jenny’s Spa:
    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️( 647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️( 437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥 💯REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯 🔥TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna😘- A stunning sexy girl from Hong Kon
  48. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️ (647) 891-9688☎️ ☎️ (416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Cici😘A very beautiful and sexy little fangirl, she has a sexy and petite figure, Cici service is first-class, worth having and trying, she belongs to the elite👍She is very friendly, very cute and exquisite little model!!🥰Real pictu
  49. Sparkling Spa:
    ⚡🌟SPARKLING SPA⚡🌟 ✅50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥SUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥SEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Today’s Schedule is…🔥 Zoe - 🔥Stunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality who
  50. SunriseRH:
    THURSDAY at 𝗦𝗨𝗡𝗥𝗜𝗦𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔: ADA & SUMMER. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on ☎️ 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟯𝟮𝟱-𝟴𝟬𝟴𝟲 ☎️ ADA is An absolutely GORGEOUS young Chinese girl, slim with nice breasts. This rare beauty is sure to drive you wild. SUMMER is an incredibly sweet Asian babe, 5’3” with a captivating 36D-28-39 figure, weighing 108 pounds. Summer has very good massage & services.
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