Rumors of Law Enforcement in the area

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In response to some rumors on some other threads, thought I'd remind everyone what is perfectly legal and drop my two cents:

Ontario courts have already upheld that getting a handjob as part of a massage is perfectly legal, so long as it's part of the "full body massage" and not separately negotiated or paid for, and you don't specifically discuss pay for the handjob. Even with this in place, depending on the license, customers and businesses can still get bylaw infractions for stuff like customers being nude, attendants undressing, etc. And cops are assholes so they might hassle you even if what you're doing is legal.

But all that said, some of you openly discussing all the other sexual services you're receiving is destined to to get the attention of law enforcement and it's foolish to expect otherwise. I'm glad some of the well reviewed parlors are having such great success in part because of your reviews and comments. These women deserve to be treated well and also well paid for what they do. But comments openly mentioning all the fun you're all having is going to get a the boys in blue to crack down on massage parlors again. Every few years there's a rush of new places opening, then a legal crack down, most places close down, a few years of very few options, then a rush of new places opening again. The cycle repeats. We've got tons of options right now and it's great. But I'm concerned if we don't smarten up it's gonna get real bad, real fast.

Just my two cents.

Legal case confirming massage HJs are legal:
R. v. Ponomarev, 2007 ONCJ 271
Link: https://www.canlii.org/en/on/oncj/doc/2007/2007oncj271/2007oncj271.html
 
In response to some rumors on some other threads, thought I'd remind everyone what is perfectly legal and drop my two cents:

Ontario courts have already upheld that getting a handjob as part of a massage is perfectly legal, so long as it's part of the "full body massage" and not separately negotiated or paid for, and you don't specifically discuss pay for the handjob. Even with this in place, depending on the license, customers and businesses can still get bylaw infractions for stuff like customers being nude, attendants undressing, etc. And cops are assholes so they might hassle you even if what you're doing is legal.

But all that said, some of you openly discussing all the other sexual services you're receiving is destined to to get the attention of law enforcement and it's foolish to expect otherwise. I'm glad some of the well reviewed parlors are having such great success in part because of your reviews and comments. These women deserve to be treated well and also well paid for what they do. But comments openly mentioning all the fun you're all having is going to get a the boys in blue to crack down on massage parlors again. Every few years there's a rush of new places opening, then a legal crack down, most places close down, a few years of very few options, then a rush of new places opening again. The cycle repeats. We've got tons of options right now and it's great. But I'm concerned if we don't smarten up it's gonna get real bad, real fast.

Just my two cents.

Legal case confirming massage HJs are legal:
R. v. Ponomarev, 2007 ONCJ 271
Link: https://www.canlii.org/en/on/oncj/doc/2007/2007oncj271/2007oncj271.html
Too many on here with big mouths being far to specific in the public forum.
DMs people, real simple if ya want dirty details
 
In response to some rumors on some other threads, thought I'd remind everyone what is perfectly legal and drop my two cents:

Ontario courts have already upheld that getting a handjob as part of a massage is perfectly legal, so long as it's part of the "full body massage" and not separately negotiated or paid for, and you don't specifically discuss pay for the handjob. Even with this in place, depending on the license, customers and businesses can still get bylaw infractions for stuff like customers being nude, attendants undressing, etc. And cops are assholes so they might hassle you even if what you're doing is legal.

But all that said, some of you openly discussing all the other sexual services you're receiving is destined to to get the attention of law enforcement and it's foolish to expect otherwise. I'm glad some of the well reviewed parlors are having such great success in part because of your reviews and comments. These women deserve to be treated well and also well paid for what they do. But comments openly mentioning all the fun you're all having is going to get a the boys in blue to crack down on massage parlors again. Every few years there's a rush of new places opening, then a legal crack down, most places close down, a few years of very few options, then a rush of new places opening again. The cycle repeats. We've got tons of options right now and it's great. But I'm concerned if we don't smarten up it's gonna get real bad, real fast.

Just my two cents.

Legal case confirming massage HJs are legal:
R. v. Ponomarev, 2007 ONCJ 271
Link: https://www.canlii.org/en/on/oncj/doc/2007/2007oncj271/2007oncj271.html
After 2007, Canadian amended its criminal law, explicitly making the purchasing sex a criminal offense. The case you mentioned has limited reference value.
Handjob falls into a typical gray zone—it's not legal, but it doesn't constitute a crime. This is the case worldwide.
——————

Wait a moment, maybe I misunderstood your point. You might be trying to emphasize that this was non-compensated sexual activity, and the money was paid for the massage, not for sex. Theoretically, this is plausible if the judge believes your explanation. Perhaps you should rephrase your wording. It's not that an HJ is legal, but rather that a free HJ is legal.
 
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The charge of "found in" a common bawdy house no longer exists. That was the charge that was laid against customers long ago.

In this case it was the owner of the spa that was on trail for other charges. He was never tried for getting a handjob.

And there is no way that cop turned down a handjob from a nude attendant twice. Lol!
 
One rumour of police at a fan favorite at the Oakville Mississauga border recently was highly embellished….
One of the girls working there confirmed that it was just a routine check to make sure the hot towels were warm enough and the back walk bars were still firmly secured to the building structure…
Good to know that our safety is being maintained…
Cheers
 
One rumour of police at a fan favorite at the Oakville Mississauga border recently was highly embellished….
One of the girls working there confirmed that it was just a routine check to make sure the hot towels were warm enough and the back walk bars were still firmly secured to the building structure…
Good to know that our safety is being maintained…
Cheers
Fake news. Forum should be for the clients benefit not the spa. If one is on the shitlist of bylaw or other LE it should not be rug swept. Look at 165 Beaver right now.

Wake up retards... the gov is broke and they are coming to collect and the easy targets (whore houses running 5 girls) are where they'll obv start.

Annual accumulated tickets paid by spas will give them a nice outline on what to charge for a license going forward. Times they are a changing, and yes the brutally public info shared on here is making it easier on the fat rats doling out the tickets.
 
Wonder why a place that had essentially rock solid scheudling is now scrambling daily with edits and changes and being short girls (leading to even more rushed and lackluster appointments)

Someone is spooked.
 
i have many friends among MPAl's so many realy confused what is going to happen very soon and consider move spa or thinking about retirement
It was easy living because when there is $$$ flowing (gov included) these things are allowed to happen.

Tight times makes the gov seek $ by any means neccessary and this business is a cash cow for em. As are those stupid 30km/h speed cams they put it.

My dudes, the easy money period is on hold, hopefully temporary. Be smarter than you have been over the last 10-15y in many facets of life.
 
After 2007, Canadian amended its criminal law, explicitly making the purchasing sex a criminal offense. The case you mentioned has limited reference value.
Handjob falls into a typical gray zone—it's not legal, but it doesn't constitute a crime. This is the case worldwide.
——————

Wait a moment, maybe I misunderstood your point. You might be trying to emphasize that this was non-compensated sexual activity, and the money was paid for the massage, not for sex. Theoretically, this is plausible if the judge believes your explanation. Perhaps you should rephrase your wording. It's not that an HJ is legal, but rather that a free HJ is legal.
If a girl offers a happy ending and does not mention a price, then it's legal. If your tip is enhanced after, that is also legal.
 
If a girl offers a happy ending and does not mention a price, then it's legal. If your tip is enhanced after, that is also legal.

And for body slides? Do you want to be the landmark case that establishes precedent about it?

You want to foot the legal bill and infamy that comes with being the "body slides are legal" crusader?
 
And for body slides? Do you want to be the landmark case that establishes precedent about it?

You want to foot the legal bill and infamy that comes with being the "body slides are legal" crusader?
I think it would be hard to maintain that a body slide is a normal part of the massage! Has anyone ever been prosecuted for paying for a body slide, however?
 
After 2007, Canadian amended its criminal law, explicitly making the purchasing sex a criminal offense. The case you mentioned has limited reference value.
Handjob falls into a typical gray zone—it's not legal, but it doesn't constitute a crime. This is the case worldwide.
——————

Wait a moment, maybe I misunderstood your point. You might be trying to emphasize that this was non-compensated sexual activity, and the money was paid for the massage, not for sex. Theoretically, this is plausible if the judge believes your explanation. Perhaps you should rephrase your wording. It's not that an HJ is legal, but rather that a free HJ is legal.
Hj is considered body treatments so it's may include in massage. This is realy stupid law provide with s..... x it's legal but pay for that it's illegal so maybe girls need to start volunteer lol
 
You guys can do all these mental gymnastics, or, you can accept that anytime you go pay for someone to touch your weiner with any part of themselves, you are taking a risk of some amount.

And act accordingly.

The worst thing you can do is argue with the low paid bylaw officers, its just like cops- you want a surefire way to piss off a cop? Demonstrate you genuinely understand more about the law than they do... watch how fast they go full salt mode.
 
You guys can do all these mental gymnastics, or, you can accept that anytime you go pay for someone to touch your weiner with any part of themselves, you are taking a risk of some amount.

And act accordingly.

The worst thing you can do is argue with the low paid bylaw officers, its just like cops- you want a surefire way to piss off a cop? Demonstrate you genuinely understand more about the law than they do... watch how fast they go full salt mode.
Facts
 
Regards of all of these rumours/facts, I am still going to go to these places 2X a week especially those in the West re: Mississauga, Oakville.
I think there is a large delta in risk, when you weigh any random spa vs a spa under active investigations.

Its poor form to not consider known information when analyzing risk.
 
I think there is a large delta in risk, when you weigh any random spa vs a spa under active investigations.

Its poor form to not consider known information when analyzing risk.
What known information - From here. With all these promoters, Entitled Dudes, etc. More misinformation then information.

Places I go to in the west. SL west, Espa, Golden Wellness.
V-zone and Z-zone. I do not go because I know the owner very well.

As far as I know, there is no crackdown like what is happening in the EBC area.

Now, I am concious on looking to see if they are a licenced establishment as opposed to a unlicenced one. Golden Wellness has a licence that shows regular inspections to check on sanitary conditions. Hence, they are busy even with little or no exposure here.
 
What known information - From here. With all these promoters, Entitled Dudes, etc. More misinformation then information.

Places I go to in the west. SL west, Espa, Golden Wellness.
V-zone and Z-zone. I do not go because I know the owner very well.

As far as I know, there is no crackdown like what is happening in the EBC area.

Now, I am concious on looking to see if they are a licenced establishment as opposed to a unlicenced one. Golden Wellness has a licence that shows regular inspections to check on sanitary conditions. Hence, they are busy even with little or no exposure here.
A non-shady member posted the boys in blue were there. Their own tout mentioned MOL.

Be honest right now- NOT bylaw, MOL, how many visits have you seen by MOL to spas?
 
A non-shady member posted the boys in blue were there. Their own tout mentioned MOL.

Be honest right now- NOT bylaw, MOL, how many visits have you seen by MOL to spas?
Maybe I had been lucky but I have never seen any visits by MOL, cops or even Bylaw in all of my visits.

Boys in blue. Many times, what is posted here is by someone who is either passing by, going for a session or 2nd hand information. I have so far never heard from a member who had an actual session interrupted by any of these visits. Maybe these members were too embarassed to say, or someone who never come online to MP.

Those who shared that their sessions were interrupted were a long time ago.

These days, By law and especially cops have to be very respectful when inspecting an establishment. Any signs of abuse of power will bring an agressive Lawyer on them so fast that it will make your head spin. This is real lfe in Canada, not the US or what you see on TV.

To make sure of that, for a first visit, By law and MOL will always ask the Boys in Blue to accompany them in part to make sure they do not encounter aggressive owners. Asian owners - mainly females are pretty law abiding but some of those owned by East Europeans can have very agressive owners and lots of rough looking dudes hanging around.
 
Maybe I had been lucky but I have never seen any visits by MOL, cops or even Bylaw in all of my visits.

Boys in blue. Many times, what is posted here is by someone who is either passing by, going for a session or 2nd hand information. I have so far never heard from a member who had an actual session interrupted by any of these visits. Maybe these members were too embarassed to say, or someone who never come online to MP.

Those who shared that their sessions were interrupted were a long time ago.

These days, By law and especially cops have to be very respectful when inspecting an establishment. Any signs of abuse of power will bring an agressive Lawyer on them so fast that it will make your head spin. This is real lfe in Canada, not the US or what you see on TV.

To make sure of that, for a first visit, By law and MOL will always ask the Boys in Blue to accompany them in part to make sure they do not encounter aggressive owners. Asian owners - mainly females are pretty law abiding but some of those owned by East Europeans can have very agressive owners and lots of rough looking dudes hanging around.
"You guys can do all these mental gymnastics, or, you can accept that anytime you go pay for someone to touch your weiner with any part of themselves, you are taking a risk of some amount.

And act accordingly."


You said you are part of the spa world did you not? And you have never seen inspections... but the spa in question has had SEVERAL from DIFFERENT BRANCHES and you are here like "its all good man"

Get a grip dude
 
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  37. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Zoe ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Helen,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament summer ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2☎️4376655510 👅👅🦵🦵👄👄🈵🈵
  38. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris , Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julia ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 🏠 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 ☎️ 4379857899 👅👅🈵🈵🦵🦵👄👄
  39. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at 𝗔𝗟𝗜𝗖𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3 very nice girls here today. Open 10am to 9pm: APPLE: from Hong Kong, very small body, 5' 100Lbs, petite with natural C Cups, small waist, pretty baby face, smooth skin, very clean. Shaved tight Pu**y, strong professional massage. Available FS bbbj cim cof rim. LUCKY (12pm-9pm): is Vietnamese, small body, busty D cup
  40. HollywoodSpa:
    Wednesday at 🎭𝗛𝗢𝗟𝗟𝗬𝗪𝗢𝗢𝗗 𝗦𝗣𝗔🎭, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: NICOLE & SISI. ☎𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟮𝟮𝟮-𝟱𝟱𝟱𝟰☎ NICOLE is petite, slim and very pretty, with C Cups , long hair & a slim waist. She has nice massage and great services. SISI is a sweet slim beauty, 5’2”, with a beauty ass, excellent massage, and amazing services. Come and see why she is so popular. When you visit 🎭Hollywood
  41. ForeverWarden:
    Wednesday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Bella, Cindy & Sasa. Bella is around 5’3” with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5’4”, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream
  42. Jenny’s Spa:
    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️( 647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️( 437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥 💯REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯 🔥💋Limited Time Special Promotion🔥💋 ✅💦30 Minutes Nude
  43. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at ❤️💙 💜⎝𝗦𝗨𝗚𝗔𝗥 𝗟𝗢𝗩𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔⎠💖💗💘: ELLA, SUSAN & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON ☎ 𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟯𝟲𝟱-𝟮𝟲𝟴𝟴 ☎ ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5’1” with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. SUSAN is a small, slim & sexy brown girl, only 53 Kgs, with nice boobs and ass, very versatile services. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll
  44. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️ (647) 891-9688☎️ ☎️ (416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Feifei😘Our new Taiwanese beauty Feifei specializes in creating an intimate and deeply relaxing massage experience tailored to your desires. Her soft, skilled hands glide effortlessly, easing tension and awakening your senses
  45. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet Mia 25’s with curve body open mind and young pretty Vicky 25’s with curve body good massage, young cute Ella good massage and flirty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  46. Golden Sunshine Spa:
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  47. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa 🌹🌹🌹 Table shower body scrub Sea Salt Bath👍every day 3 girls 🔥🔥🔥5124 Dundas St W Etobicoke☎️416-817-3366👍 Nice girl Ivy ❤️ Natural Big Boobs 36 DD 😘Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable😘😘😘😘 very provocative service😘😘😘, professional super 🌹 Luna😘 deep tissue massage, back walking has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will
  48. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga Kiki and Niko work They are all young, beautiful and gentle. They are very good at both deep massage and relaxation massage.
  49. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Sami is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite girl Sasa friendly Vietnamese girl ☎️647- 446-0886
  50. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS ♥️ADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 (PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) ♥️TODAY'S Schedule!♥️ Loaded lineup with Young Beautiful Girls : Cute Cici, Magical Mia and Work out🏋🚴💪 Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) **TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS MIA**
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