Should MSOG be an extra at MP's

[KaNi]

Agree with you 100% there. A good session has to be a lot more than the release itself. The sad part is when you hear from an SP telling you that other girls in the same studio are speed queens. That speaks a lot about the studios being aware of the problem but choosing to do nothing about it.



Mind telling us who this girl is?

 

[katie h]

Agreed X3. I vary, sometimes one...sometimes three shots. I just want a full hour of the ladies time....I do talk a fair bit as well....so there is no reason why the lady can't "humor me"...

There is a lot of frustration with services in this post. I wish there were more indies here as well too offer more selection and competition....but that's not the kind of market here.

The best way to enact change, in any degree, lies in the pooner hands. Though it may pain us, post the bad reviews. If it's done in a fair manner without degrading the lady, there should be minimum BS....


Dex

 

[Yikes!]

For me I find that the amount of shots greatly depends on th sp not the client. If your with a provider who really enjoys what she does then multiple shots are easily achieved.

Jenna-C and Candace are two great examples of this threory..they are really into what they do and really enjoy sex, so they go the extra mile, until both parties are satisfied.

I know with Jenna she always asks if you can go again, if you are unsure she trys with all of her skill to make it happen again and again.

 

[broken angel]

Amazingly enough I think I better not, I will review later I don't want to derail this thread, I will say the SP wasn't rushing me out the door, she was getting into the DATY quite nicely, but I will give her that it was the end of her Shift for the day, and while we played she was quite into it no knock there, and some good mellow time after maybe 5 to 10 minutes just wasn't as long as one would expect (insert MSOG statement here), most of the issue was with

1) Slow to get the girls to do the introductions (MP issue)
2) Clock set way wrong in the room (MP issue)
3) The little warning knock on the door at what I would guess was 15 minutes early (MP issue)
4) Coming at Shift change so the manager may have wanted me out so they could do a clean etc before the next shift of ladies, vacuum running Ladies folding clothes, cleaning etc.
5) GFE that was OK the kissing was LFK (SP interpretation maybe, don't know) not a huge issue because the DATY was nice, and her O was real nice, she damn near crushed my head!
6) No massage offered (again tired SP)

The major issue was the MP and all the little things they did, all told I was "in Session" for about 35 minutes (5 to 10 of which was cuddle time)

The SP was nice for the time we were in "session" it's just the other influences of the MP itself made me feel cheated out of the value I got. Guess Karma got me there I was trying to connect with Another Indy SP all day and was right horned up, lesson learned, need to be more thoughtful and patient when selecting.

Still not an excuse for the MP though.

hope that helps

 

[Eon kid]

I think all you guys are just a bunch of immature ejaculators.

Oh, and Legends MP has all their clocks set 10 to 15 minutes ahead, I always joke about it but every time they are still running fast. I hardly ever do MSOG but the hour is usually still filled, I have nothing to complain about.

 

[funky]

Do what I do, reset the clock to the correct time... throws them for a curve it does

 

[Smileycourt]

Good enough for me fiddy.

However, where I do blame the studio is in that the management DO know what is going on and by allowing it are accepting/condoning it.

Thus, how long before all the staff find out they can take shortcuts etc without any consequences except here (other boards) where the whiteknights and ymmv abound?

 

[Kar]

My little cousin drove 10 hours to Edmonton all the way from Fort St. John to pop his MP Cherry. He is very shy, soft spoken and not very confident. I told him to go see Malaysia, Josie, Alexis, Lina, Holly or Vida but like all 18 year-olds, he doesn't take advice very well.

My cousin makes less than 30k a year and it takes him two months to set aside enough cash to have one session.

He booked with Carmen @ Legends earlier last week instead. Carmen sold him on the safe GFE session with kissing but no DATY. She gave him a spectacular 1/2 an hour of good loving before smacking him on the ass and sending him on his way. $300 dollars for 1/2 an hour and we're complaining about $300 for an hour.

When I met him for super on Friday night and he was pouting for the better part of an hour. I convinced him to book another hour but this time with Josie and I gave him his x-mas gift a little early. (3x times more than I planned on spending on his gift this year)

Josie saved the day and he went back home a very happy boy. I talked with him this evening and he is still glowing from hour with Miss Josie.

I have $300 dollars less in my pooining budget for this month. I was saving that for a round with Miss Josie or Kendra. I have been dying for "hot a cup of Josie" but now that is going to have to wait for the New Year. I spent more money on pay-to-play in Europe than I'm willing to admit and I still have Christmas to take care of.

I can live without a cup of coffee for a while but denying me a "steaming hot cup of Josie", that's bound to piss anybody off. I am pretty sure the shakes are gonna start setting in without my Josie fix.

MSOG is really peace of mind and a guarantee that allows a guy to relax and enjoy an hour of companionship with a women without having to follow a typical MP routine to make sure you get your hour.

We're all just asking for the time we pay for and any lady who's offering less than the hour we pay for shouldn't be surprised when a bad review of her service shows up on one of the review boards.

 

[Kapacs]

I agree with much of what you've said in this thread Fiddy but I wonder where it is written in stone that you are always guaranteed an hour with an indy??

I have always loved the MP scene in Edmonton since the first one opened in I believe 1988, (Head to Toe Massage). I do agree that many of them are overpriced and that many ladies working there offer a service level that leaves a lot to be desired but I see a lot of bad reviews of indy girls on this board too, so that can happen anywhere.

I think the MPs have a place and it would be a shame to see them go. Hooking up with an Indy can be a pain, witness InsertCoolSayingHere's problems last weekend.

MPs on the other hand can be much more convenient, all you have to do is show up at the door for your pick of a lovely group of ladies who you actually get to meet before choosing. I mean, I don't want to lose that option!

 

[Virgil]

I don't think the MP's are going anywhere anytime soon. if you know business and understand sales, "Pain + Need for a solution = Money".

Hopefully the MPA's are reading this see this as an opportunity to make money by coming up with a solution that works for them and the clients. We're the clients and it's not our responsibility to come up with a solution.

At the same time, the local and traveling independent providers should also see this an an opportunity to make some money. If the MP's continue to ignoring the outside threat they are going to loose market share.

EBC has done a better job than any other studio in Edmonton competing against the independent providers.
All the ladies are GFE providers (No FS only girls)All the ladies make sure their client get an hour or moreStar and Charmaine have done a great job selecting their providersThey have created a modern facility with large showers in every room
It really comes down to who hungry wants that money more. This issue is a huge opportunity to make money. The members of massageplanet represent millions of dollars of revenue. The question is, who want a piece of that pie?

 

[I heart you]

Pain = Money only if your client base is into S&M.

The real sales adage, is that the solution for the pain is equal to $. (you do kinda mention in another paragraph but the bold, large coloured lettering does draw one's attention to the wrong section.

I think you need to actually LOOK at the facts before claiming that massageplanet members are worth "MILLIONS" of dollars.

The FACTS are that there are 7,751 members in massageplanet (at the time of this posting), not all the members are from Edmonton (and a fair number are SPs). I would estimate that 25% would be males from Edmonton or about 1,937. Of those not all are MP guys, let's for a moment give you the benefit of the doubt and say that 75% of those are MP going guys so that knocks your base down to 1453. Of the MP guys I'd say it's a 50/50 (or fiddy/fiddy ) split that are strictly MP guys, so I'll use 75% to factor out the non MP visits that MP guys make. For a total base of 1,089.

Let's say that of the gal in the MP nets 200 per visit (they will all do a mix of GFE/FS half hours etc and pay room fees, reception fees yada yada).

Now the next question is: How many MP visits does a 'guy' make?There are some who visit every parlour and every gal in the city. How about the guys who stick to a single gal? They really aren't in the market at all. Kinda like guys who only watch TV at their friend's house, they are part of the potential market for a TV sales guy but not really.Then there are those who visit once a month or less.Let's use an average of 1/month for each guy?

If we do that the size of the market is 2,615,962. However since not all the studios are represented on the boards not the full amount is available to your audience.

I don't know about you but when I read "MILLIONS" I think a LOT more than two. Perhaps that's just me though

 

[Bella <3 Jandro.]

I used the word millions to try to avoid using a specific number since there are too many unknown factors to even begin to estimate the actual number. All you can do is guesstimate the answer. I'm really not interested in wasting my time whipping out the calculator to figure out the theoretical size of the "pay-to-play happy-ending market".

I also corrected the statement in bold green just to make you happy. The ladies that advertise on massageplanet would not pay to advertise on this board if they did not get a return on their investment. There must be money to be made on this board.