Terrible Experience at Seduction (New girl Victoria)

[thunderfromdownunder]

My thoughts:
You paid $140 - and were offered $40 cash and $40 in credit ($80) - so you are out $60
You did mess up the Duo talk - it would have been better to 1) ask "in general" the cost or 2) had your session, THEN ask the MPA who she would prefer to duo with and "in case you are interested in the future" how much it would APPROXIMATELY be. Feint saying "ok let me have a session with (MPA2) and see if we click".
The $180 for FS was probably just her pricing herself out of the FS market because she was pissed - not an excuse, I would assume someone would have talked to her.

But yes, if you are gonna ask, dont balk at the price. At Blue Lagoon (Candice) once I paid the $60 door, then $100 room fee (paid up front) then asked for FS. She said +$200 - asked "on top of the $100 already paid?" - yes ... and I paid the $200 and fucked that sweet firm bubble butt ... point is, if you are counting pennies, be careful what you ask pricing for.

Pretty much what happened it would seem. If you ask for a duo and reneg, then ask for fs and reneg on price, what kind of attitude do you expect from any attendant?

These are hoes not seasoned business professionals with seemingly unlimited patience for bs. To turn around and bash the establishment for what seems to be a reasonable resolution to an avoidable situation is comical.

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[Hobbyist0912]

The way I see it, Seductions entire value proposition is that they are constantly hiring new girls every week. That comes with the disadvantage of quality control for the advantage of getting fresh meat that most guys crave, including me.

So when you compare it to Premier who's had the same aging roster (I don't even remember when the last time I've seen a new attendant mentioned), of course Premier is gonna deliver a more consistent experience. I'd say both the average age and years of experience may be significantly higher than Seduction. For me I love trying new girls as I find it more exciting than the same polished routine from someone who has 5 years of experience. But if that's what you're looking for then of course that's a better choice.

And it's like what another poster said. If you were expecting them to count out every second and prorate your 10 minute and 2 second handjob fee, I think that's a being a bit unrealistic.

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Not every second of course. But a reasonable compensation as a regular.

Good analysis though!

 

[Hobbyist0912]

My rule of thumb in this hobby is never to haggle or bargain with the girl. Walk if she is not your type. Know the rates, pay in advance to get the money out of the way, pay a little extra if you like what you see. It never fails me.

Good advice!

 

[Hobbyist0912]

@OP Thanks for sharing your experience. I have been hobbying for several years. While most of my sessions have been positive at Seduction, there have been a few bad ones but not as bad as yours.

Believe me, I have had this type of horrible experience at Pure Spa but they made it up for it by offering a full credit on a future session. Similarly, I had a bad session (not as bad as yours) at Seduction Keele about a couple of years ago but the owner of Seduction made it up for the entire session.

What Seduction should have done is refund you $40 and at minimum $100 credit towards a future session which results into a free 30 mins session minus tips for extras.

Thanks again for sharing!

Couldn't agree more! And happy to share... Glad that you see it the same way as myself.

I think some of the folks who are actively leaving comments fail to appreciate that I am sharing my experience for the community and are just excited for an opportunity to pass judgement...

 

[Hobbyist0912]

Ya, I’ve had some good and some bad experiences at Seduction. For the most part, I’ve moved them to last on my list of spa’s to visit.

I’ve had a couple of relatable bad experiences at Seduction. When they also owned Vaughan Spa, I booked Leela showed up she was a no show, it happened a couple of times. Receptionist contacted the owner, who gave me a free door fee and when I did finally see Leela it was a great session, ended up seeing her again.

Second one is more like your experience. I can’t remember names of who I booked, it was awhile ago, and I’ve posted it here before. But anyway, I booked the girl I wanted to see, while waited this other girl comes out to say hello, smoking hot, after she leaves I say was that the girl I booked and receptionist says no, wait til you see her. Anyway I go to the room and in walks the girl from the waiting room, ok, she’s hot, we start the session and I can’t touch her anywhere and everything is a problem, 5mins in I realize she had a bunch of bad reviews on here. I stop the session tell her to get out and tell the receptionist to bring in the girl I booked. She stormed off and the other girl came in and all was good.

It’s true, the girls are younger and super hot, but have no experience in no pun intended, Seduction...it’s all wham bam thanks...not all but most.

You should have just taken the money and the credit and chalked it up to lousy service...not saying you’ll never be back, cuz realistically you will...try as we might the kitty gets us every time, otherwise they’d be out of business

I think I will always take Premier and Flirt over Seduction moving forward. But we will see how this pans out with time.

Thanks for your comment!

 

[Hobbyist0912]

Dude I gave up on these expensive spas a long time ago. Now I just stick to Asian spas or other cheaper alternatives in case I do get scammed there won't be too much damage. I tend to stick to the girl who is smiling and happy when they greet me. I think you should do the same to get the best bang for your bucks. I also will try to avoid neurotic, tattooed, crazy, and drugged-out girls all the time at the MPA scene.

Smart man!

 

[Hobbyist0912]

Agree with LAZYBOY. You sound like you tried to haggle and then got mad when you blew your load too fast and then tried to get a free door fee out of it.

Sucks that you had a bad time but next time pay the fee or just see a different girl.. Also why not post this from your main account??

I have noticed that many service providers will avoid doing extras if they learn you leave comments on this board... So, I always avoid leaving reviews that are TOO DETAILED. This review was very detailed and I simply did not wish to give the identity of my account away.

 

[Hobbyist0912]

Seductions was never a place for more of a slow, sensual, "seductive" experience LOL As what many here have said, it's a straight up brothel filled with young, inexperienced party girls who are looking for quick cash. Nothing wrong with that at all quite frankly as I usually love to drop by the place after a night of drinking myself for a quick romp. Anyone remember when adrianna was there? I'd walk out even more drunk than I was after seeing her!

Yes, good description. I am just realizing that what you described is not for me. Some may actually prefer it. To each their own...

 

[Hobbyist0912]

I think some of you guys are treating the OP unfair. He got ripped off by the mpa, no excuses.

My only issue is that he made a fake account to complain. I find that a little weak.

Thanks man!

I am using this account as some service providers don't offer extras when they learn you post reviews... This post is too detailed and would give my identity away...

 

[Hobbyist0912]

Ok I’ll take a stab at this from another angle,

but first thanks to the OP and the many responders, most of whom have already made clear the specifics of the trade at seduction and various other better ways of handling things...

this has become an interesting thread
so here’s the angle: DUO

at the time of Covid you’ve booked a single session but go in and request a duo on the spur of the moment

first of all, flirt is a better outfit for multiple MPAs, but anyway if you are considering a duo I would recommend first striking a regular relationship with someone you have sessions with alone for a little bit and then ask THEM who they are comfortable teaming up with, if they do it all...

you requested a duo - unannounced - they actually sort one out for you (good for them) and tell you a price - girls are in the back ready to go and getting ready

then you back off

manager has to go back again and say game off

you now look like a dweeb before your original booked girl even sees you
And that’s all on you IMO

you asked for a wish that being a duo (in difficult times even)
It was granted
You reneged
Your little head got the better of yiu
It never plans well

your MPA was miffed before she opened the door

plan ahead - with the head above your shoulders - before you enter the spa

Good advice like the other gents...

I just do not understand why the SP would feel attacked and take it out on you if you evaluate your DUO option and decide not to take it... They asked for extra tip just for doing duo. I think I am entitled to choose what I would like and what I deem reasonable. Whether the SP likes it or not, they should not show it in the session, or even worse, actively try to ruin your session and get back at you. That is the definition of unprofessionalism.

 

[Hobbyist0912]

New young girls 18 yrs old weed smoke..booze..music blasting hot chicks trying to make some quick money. Some addicted. No makeup , girl next door = this is seduction

Same girl..relaxed spa music, sensual service , perfume , routine is followed to the tee, experienced girls ,done up with hair and nails = Premire

These is no better one..its preference and its variety. I have Bbfs, cbj ,Thressome ,rimming , cimsw. At both seduction and premiere. I change when I get tired of one scenario. .too many drunk sessions..I change to Premier..need some new young pussy..I head back to seduction

The attraction to seduction is finding that new girl who just started and the great variety they bring. Never the same old story. Agian I've had more memorable experiences at seduction than bad ones.

Asian spas are when I'm just bored and get the urge. No planning .no expectations.

Great summary! I've realized the latter matches my preferences better.

 

[Hobbyist0912]

Thanks a lot for the comments/advices folks. Just to close the loop on some main comments:

1. I noticed that a few of you guys mentioned that I should have just went ahead with the overly priced quote. If we all see it that way, soon this hobby will become unaffordable for most of us. I think as customers we should also call BS out and not take the SP up on a ridiculous offer... Had I went for it, she would have tried it on others as well... That is just my thinking.

2. I shared my experience for fellow hobbyist as this is what we do on this board. Advices and comments are greatly appreciated, but personal attacks are not. I think it is important that we share our experiences and reflect on them as a community together, but we shouldn't discourage users to do so. I am happy that most users appreciated the experience sharing.

3. Surprisingly, some users rooted for the service provider by saying that she was in the right to get pissed. I find that very strange... please remember that we have not met these girls at a bar. They are service providers and are getting paid to provide us with a pleasant experience. Of course, its always better when the feeling is genuine (when you feel like you clicked with the SP). But, if they do not like something we do or say, they have no right to try and ruin the session for us while getting paid that handsomely. That is the definition of unprofessionalism (allowing personal feelings to interfere with your work).

4. I really liked the comments that listed the pros and cons of places like Seduction vs. Premier. I agree and I just think the latter better aligns with my preferences.

Thanks a lot again for chiming in!

Cheers and happy hobbying!

 

[imthedude]

There is very clearly a middle ground that has been explained to you multiple times. I feel like rather than informing people you posted this to get validation and are upset that you didn't get it. Well, tough tits.

 

[Great gazoo]

Good advice like the other gents...

I just do not understand why the SP would feel attacked and take it out on you if you evaluate your DUO option and decide not to take it... They asked for extra tip just for doing duo. I think I am entitled to choose what I would like and what I deem reasonable. Whether the SP likes it or not, they should not show it in the session, or even worse, actively try to ruin your session and get back at you. That is the definition of unprofessionalism.

I think they actually get excited about doing them
So you put it in their head and then took it away due to $ concerns
That’s never going to end well for you

 

[thunderfromdownunder]

There is very clearly a middle ground that has been explained to you multiple times. I feel like rather than informing people you posted this to get validation and are upset that you didn't get it. Well, tough tits.

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[Craig_45671234523__]

When the MPAs at expensive spas look at you, they think they look at dollar signs. Lol. How could most of you not realize that is beyond me..

 

[thunderfromdownunder]

When the MPAs at expensive spas look at you, they think they look at dollar signs. Lol. How could most of you not realize that is beyond me..

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I think every business looks at u the same way bro. Some are just better at pretending than others.

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[Craig_45671234523__]

I think every business looks at u the same way bro. Some are just better at pretending than others.

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Yeah, I know, but spas are worst.

 

[Buzzkill]

I think I will always take Premier and Flirt over Seduction moving forward. But we will see how this pans out with time.

Thanks for your comment!

Ya, same here...I was a Perla man for the longest time, then got hooked on Seduction but now back to my first love Flirt...

 

[Sweet you think]

Couldn't agree more! And happy to share... Glad that you see it the same way as myself.

I think some of the folks who are actively leaving comments fail to appreciate that I am sharing my experience for the community and are just excited for an opportunity to pass judgement...

I hear you but in this life, when you put things out there it enables others to pass judgment.