Victoria @ Seduction (Avoid at all costs)

[Cola]

Seduction spa is a former shell of itself.
Not worth going to anymore.

 

[mitchellmathew23]

As I've said, at times it appears you provide what others think is good service. Clearly at other times you don't. No one wants to go to the front desk and complain about the session, that's awkward and you know that and exploit that. You've produced a few decent reviews and a few scathing ones.

 

[Deleted member 79939]

As I've said, at times it appears you provide what others think is good service. Clearly at other times you don't. No one wants to go to the front desk and complain about the session, that's awkward and you know that and exploit that. You've produced a few decent reviews and a few scathing ones.

WHO DO U RECOMMEND TODAY?

 

[snoopdoggie]

Everything I wrote in my review is 100% accurate including the times there's not a single inconsistency. You're attacking the credibility of my review and saying there's red flags let me tell you some red flags in your response. You're claiming that I'm shilling for another spa but also that our session happened and you remember it well. That doesn't make sense. You say I booked for 45 minutes which is not true I booked for an hour. You saying I booked for 45 mins can only mean one of three things.
1-You're lying about remembering my session.
2-You do remember my session and are choosing to lie.
3-You do this so frequently that you're remembering another session with someone else that booked for 45 mins that you also rushed out.

I did not write this review to damage any person or business unfairly. I was completely taken advantage of and so was my friend who shared the exact same experience this week at re-opening(who also most definitely booked for an hour). That's why I waited a year for my review (as I already explained) Between me, my friend and this person who you remember also being upset with a 45 min session(seriously did you not realize you were ratting yourself out there?)

You mention your positive reviews but you have another one on here that's title reads "Terrible Experience at Seduction". I've checked terb and you don't have any reviews that I can see. You claim to always be fully booked but your twitter is constantly advertising that you have availability. Now these are what I would call "inconsistencies".

Victoria you might think I wrote this review to damage your business but nothing would give me more satisfaction than this being a learning experience and motivating you to not scam anyone like this ever again.

Yeah, I doubt she would remember your session from a year ago. You don't use the same name at the Spa, right? She was probably commenting on a session that happened more recently.

 

[mitchellmathew23]

Yeah, I doubt she would remember your session from a year ago. You don't use the same name at the Spa, right? She was probably commenting on a session that happened more recently.

Exactly this. Of course I use a different name than my screen name. Her bringing up some random 45 minute session from recently is her assuming I'm the latest guy she's ripped off.

 

[shitforbrains]

Hi Mitchell,

I am here to tell my side of our session. You did not book an hour, you booked a 45 min session which is 1 shot
Furthermore, I would never comment on a clients appearance or freckles, Or suggest a client get tattoos to cover up anything they may be insecure about - and you took up the full time of your session. If you did not enjoy yourself I apologize, but please don’t come on a board to make up lies about me.

My appearance might not be everyone’s cup of tea but you got the full time of your session, possibly 5 mins less. Regardless I appreciate your feedback and will do better to provide more pleasure in the future

I’m always open to constructive criticism and will do my best to work on my sessions

- Victoria Love

1 shot only in a 45 min session is no bueno.

 

[MysterE Man]

I saw her once. Have kind of mixed opinions about what I'm reading here. I never do reviews for a lot of good reasons, but figured I would today, to set the record straight for those looking for more voices/input.

She's hot. Great boobs and ass, and pretty face. Giving her 2/10 is not fair. She's very pretty, though perhaps a tad too overworked as far as makeup, plastic surgery, etc. The Kardashian comparisons fit. She feels every bit like that kind of thing, both physically and in terms of how she carries herself.

She's also nice enough. Not the best personality I've seen in the sense she's not really bubbly, but she was polite and did what was required. Wasn't high, wasn't drunk, wasn't really rude. She was mildly pleasant; not more, not less. I'm just ok looking (5 10, dark brown hair, light skin), and she never said a word negative about how I looked, even though I could tell I was not her type (I look somewhat clean cut accountant-ish).

Truthfully though, I wouldn't repeat, and left wishing I'd picked another girl. First, she was really fast. 10 minute lacklustre massage, 10 minute for the finish, and then just waited for me to get up. This was for a 45 minute session. Second, she didn't seem into it at all, especially after she found out i was only doing an 80 upsell for CBJ (she opened negotiations in the first three minutes, which is never a good sign). I know it's hard for these girls for a lot of reasons, the biggest being they have to fake wanting to fuck mediocre looking guys all day long. However, she just seemed bored and mechanical, and I left feeling dirty, rather than fulfilled. She was also a bit pushy for the money, which compounded the awkward feeling at the end. That was ironic, since paying her was never going to be an issue. I actually had 260 extra sitting in my wallet that I'd brought, which I was hoping to spend a bunch of if I had gotten turned on more. My original hope had been to go the full distance, but only if the lead up was good and an extra layer of motivation kicked in. HER BJ skills are excellent, but I was psychologically out of it and bored, and honestly just wanted to go home halfway through, so willed myself to cum to get it over with.

My sense (and this might be unfair, but it's MY sense) is that she prefers old sugar daddy types who give her low effort pay cheques and lots of presents from Victoria Secret, or else beefy Gino types who appeal to her superficial side (essentially her male dopplegangers). If you like girls who look like a porn star and who will give you a fast fuck, and don't want the buildup, she's perfect. However, if you are looking to feel special, unless you spend most of your day working on cars and doing reps in a gym after work, or unless you want to make it endlessly rain to keep her attention, you probably won't be her type, and won't click with her.

Last point, and I do want to stress this. Aside from the time issue and the lack of a good opening massage, she did NOTHING wrong. Most guys going into these kinds of places just want to cum with a hot girl and go home without thinking about things too much. She's perfectly fine if that's what you're looking for. Hell, I'd imagine half those guys are happy to just skip straight to the end. But if you're more cerebral and need something a that feels more sensual and genuine (even though it never is), then she's not a good choice. She's just not a good fit for those kinds of wishes. Her ability to 'fake' liking you is not as good as some other girls in this industry.

This I think should help clear things up. She's anything from a 9 to a 3, depending on what you're looking for.

 

[Kawailuvr]

As I am saying- it’s not possible I came in at 8:13 and the session be done at 8:24 . The reception keeps track of times, the girls keep alarms on their phones and there’s no way a man who booked an hour session (or 45 mins like he booked) would be showering and leaving in 5 minutes without anyone saying anything, he was not shorted on his time.

Also posting a “review” from a year ago on our opening week, mentioning our competing spa, and having some very clear inconsistencies with timing/comments/ etc should be a red flag to everyone reading this post.

For anyone willing to see for themselves, my next shift is Monday and there’s a reason I stay fully booked

Have a nice weekend!

Nobody wants to waste money on an arrogant nasty whore like you Victoria !
every review here is the same you waste time your attitude sucks and you up sell like crazy
Go back to terb with the rest of the simps

 

[snoopdoggie]

I saw her once. Have kind of mixed opinions about what I'm reading here. I never do reviews for a lot of good reasons, but figured I would today, to set the record straight for those looking for more voices/input.

She's hot. Great boobs and ass, and pretty face. Giving her 2/10 is not fair. She's very pretty, though perhaps a tad too overworked as far as makeup, plastic surgery, etc. The Kardashian comparisons fit. She feels every bit like that kind of thing, both physically and in terms of how she carries herself.

She's also nice enough. Not the best personality I've seen in the sense she's not really bubbly, but she was polite and did what was required. Wasn't high, wasn't drunk, wasn't really rude. She was mildly pleasant; not more, not less. I'm just ok looking (5 10, dark brown hair, light skin), and she never said a word negative about how I looked, even though I could tell I was not her type (I look somewhat clean cut accountant-ish).

Truthfully though, I wouldn't repeat, and left wishing I'd picked another girl. First, she was really fast. 10 minute lacklustre massage, 10 minute for the finish, and then just waited for me to get up. This was for a 45 minute session. Second, she didn't seem into it at all, especially after she found out i was only doing an 80 upsell for CBJ (she opened negotiations in the first three minutes, which is never a good sign). I know it's hard for these girls for a lot of reasons, the biggest being they have to fake wanting to fuck mediocre looking guys all day long. However, she just seemed bored and mechanical, and I left feeling dirty, rather than fulfilled. She was also a bit pushy for the money, which compounded the awkward feeling at the end. That was ironic, since paying her was never going to be an issue. I actually had 260 extra sitting in my wallet that I'd brought, which I was hoping to spend a bunch of if I had gotten turned on more. My original hope had been to go the full distance, but only if the lead up was good and an extra layer of motivation kicked in. HER BJ skills are excellent, but I was psychologically out of it and bored, and honestly just wanted to go home halfway through, so willed myself to cum to get it over with.

My sense (and this might be unfair, but it's MY sense) is that she prefers old sugar daddy types who give her low effort pay cheques and lots of presents from Victoria Secret, or else beefy Gino types who appeal to her superficial side (essentially her male dopplegangers). If you like girls who look like a porn star and who will give you a fast fuck, and don't want the buildup, she's perfect. However, if you are looking to feel special, unless you spend most of your day working on cars and doing reps in a gym after work, or unless you want to make it endlessly rain to keep her attention, you probably won't be her type, and won't click with her.

Last point, and I do want to stress this. Aside from the time issue and the lack of a good opening massage, she did NOTHING wrong. Most guys going into these kinds of places just want to cum with a hot girl and go home without thinking about things too much. She's perfectly fine if that's what you're looking for. Hell, I'd imagine half those guys are happy to just skip straight to the end. But if you're more cerebral and need something a that feels more sensual and genuine (even though it never is), then she's not a good choice. She's just not a good fit for those kinds of wishes. Her ability to 'fake' liking you is not as good as some other girls in this industry.

This I think should help clear things up. She's anything from a 9 to a 3, depending on what you're looking for.

Good explanation.
Someone said she's a stripper. I don't think that a stripper job and a Spa provider job is intertwining. They are 2 completely different jobs, that requires different types of attitude. A Stripper job provides raw excitement where you don't need to pretend to like the customer neccesarily, whereas a Spa provider should provide more sensuality. It's much more personal than being a stripper. Maybe she just doesn't know how to make the transition.

 

[John 1415]

She doesn't provide service for black clients

 

[c1000]

She doesn't provide service for black clients

SAY WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!!!!!

Please expand on this.

 

[snoopdoggie]

SAY WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!!!!!

Please expand on this.

Don't act surprised as if you never encountered this before. I don't know this about Victoria. But come on.

Tiger Woods is black. And out of the hundreds of girlfriends he's had, not a single one was black. I find it hard to believe too, but it's true. People have their preferences. That's just the way life works.

 

[drunkenmaster]

Exactly this. Of course I use a different name than my screen name. Her bringing up some random 45 minute session from recently is her assuming I'm the latest guy she's ripped off.

When you ripp off so many people ,you become paranoid and defensive.

 

[c1000]

She doesn't provide service for black clients

I also just posted 5 reviews from other members who have seen me and can post attest to my rates, energy and attitude!

We got some left over shit to clear up. Oe of you explain John 1415's comment.

 

[Rayvw]

Thank you for the honest review. I appreciate being able to get a look from the other side of things to see what I can work on and improve, and my strengths and weaknesses.

This has shown me that I need to go slower with my session, and I appreciate anything constructive that can help me get the the level I want to be as a companion.

If anyone felt “rushed” by me, I am truly sorry and please know that it is a work in progress and that won’t be a problem in the future.

Any comment on John1415 comment?

About black clients, whether at spas or independent?

 

[Victoriaal0ve]

We got some left over shit to clear up. Oe of you explain John 1415's comment.

Any comment on John1415 comment?

About black clients, whether at spas or independent?

I have privately messaged him. I see black clients both independently and in the spa. I do not discriminate.

If I ever refuse a client it’s because they either A) Failed my screening or B) had a hygiene issue

 

[c1000]

I've also sent a PM to @John 1415 asking for clarity and details on this.

We got to get to the bottom of this.

 

[Hobbyist0912]

I am almost 100% percent sure that this review has the same author as the other review about me on this board.

Everything you mentioned down to the comments I’ve made about your appearance is a lie, which is why I came onto this board.

My reviews:

https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/victoria-love-review.741479/

https://www.sp411.cc/threads/300516-Victoria-Love?highlight=Victoria+love

https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/victoria-love-review-hidden-gem.727211/

There are more but for the sake of this thread, I’ve included the ones that detail my service & attitude. All of these from long standing accounts with much more post history.
Regardless I am not interested in going back and forth on this board, just here to tell my side of things ❤.

Hi Victoria,

I see that rather than taking a criticism maturely and actually trying to improve your service, you are accusing me and the writer of this post to be the same person. I would like to let everyone, who is reading this, know that I am not the OP of this thread. I am not even a readhed (not that that's a bad thing, but trying to say that I probably do not even look like the OP). Also, I would like to ensure everyone that everything I said in my post, which was posted about a year ago, is true and exactly as it happened.

Victoria - you say that this has given you the opportunity to learn, reflect, and improve your service, but at the same time you accuse me and the original poster to be the same person. You also choose to get into a back and fourth with the OP and deny everything. Such behaviours are not indicative of growth and receiving critisim properly. You also said "the fact that we mention the competing spa (you probably meant Premier), is a red flag". No, Victoria. This is a review board, and we always discuss which establishment is a better place for us to spend our cash, based on our experiences. Again, this is another very immature behaviour that you demonstrate and shows that instead of trying to receive the feedback and improve your service, you try to use whatever it takes to deny everything and attack your clients. In my opinion there is not much competition between your spa and the Premier chain, thanks to the poor service you provide, and more importantly, how you choose to handle criticism and respond to clients.

I must also take this opportunity to let everyone know that I have not visited Seduction since last year, when I had the poor experience with Victoria. I have been going mostly to Premier and some times to Flirt, Allure, and SRM, depending on my mood.

In closing, I would like to agree with one of the comments here and reiterate that nobody likes to complain to the receptionist or write a bad review on this board. When hobbying, we choose to make an escape from our daily lives and are fully invested, financially and otherwise, in having an amazing experience. As such, we are automatically willing to turn a blind eye to little disrespectful comments or passive aggresive behaviours here and there. But when the SP tries to rip off the clients or show the hostile behaviour that we are all witnessing here, we would have to speak up to (1) the spa so they can make the necessary adjustments so they won't lose business, and (2) to our fellow hobbyists, because it is not fair for anyone to spend this much money to receive a poor and short service with a hostile attitude.

Keep hobbying gents.

 

[snoopdoggie]

In all businesses, customers usually gauge their satisfaction with their wallets. Even if someone doesn't complain about the product or service they receive, you will still see how satisfied they are, by how they spend their money. If the customer doesn't return and spends his/her money eleswhere, it's more than likely because they were not happy. Everyone knows the old saying, "money talks".

 

[TheWatcher]

Notice how Victoria handled the issue.
Very commendable and professional.

bravo