Chat Will the government start closing spas soon?

[Nanziqi]

What is the Red Board everyone is talking about?

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[Happyman]

On the red board an interesting post about the situation at Premier...

To extend my initial post as to which spa and the why’s, here is her response

I give some context let’s start at the beginning.
Some facts for the public:
-to be an MPA one must be hired firstly and given an employment letter from the spa you’re going to work at, have no criminal record and obtain a background check, clearance from a Doctor that you one doesn’t have any communicable diseases and finally, a license from the city. This all costs about $500 and about 9 hours of running around to get it done.
-when hired at premier, they do not tell you any of their “rules” until after this obtained.
-premier does not allow you to choose when you work, it’s mandatory you work nights and weekends even if you can’t (say you have kids, school, another job etc.), you must give 2 weeks notice for any time you need off (we can all agree this is fair and probably their own fair rule), if you miss a shift- you’re expected to pay $150/shift missed wether your child is sick, there’s a pandemic, you have your period or you’re feeling ill. If you’re late for a shift they charge $20/30 mins you’re late and if you have to go home early, you pay between $70-150 depending on many hours you require off early, if a client books a 40 mins (which costs the same as a 30 mins) and a client leaves early (now this client hasn’t been rushed, he just needs to leave and he’s got what he’s come for) the receptionist are told to charge us anywhere between $20-50 dollars for a client leaving early. The client doesn’t get that money back. We completed a session and the client was happy and will most likely return to see us...why do we get money taken away? Are we to hold clients hostage?
-when hired we are told we are to execute our jobs within MPA standards...but you’ll soon realize that clients come to premier because it’s a “sure thing.” This “sure thing” is now being instructed to be done “for free” to keep you busy and fully booked. If you do not do it, you will not be busy unless you have been there a long time and have acquired clients that are MPA limits only...even then, most do your sessions will be boundary pushers who will be very upset at their session if you do not do what they want. But that is for another post...today we are here to give you a little context on what exactly we are expected to do at our jobs and how how an illness sweeping the world and infecting thousands is not a reason to close down a spa and a really awesome time to charge its employees $150/shift for missing work.


Five days ago, the WHO labeled this COVID19 virus as being a pandemic. It took our spa management a few hours to compile a notice they put our site and a message to us ladies in a group chat which is below:


“Hi everyone:


No doubt you’ve all been following the news about the current public health situation and I’m sure like everyone you’re very worried. We wanted you to know we’re also very concerned and thinking about you. We know this is a very difficult and stressful time for everyone.


We wanted to share that we have placed a statement on our website to inform our clients that all attendants and managers have total discretion to cancel any session and refuse service to any client who you feel is not completely healthy at this time.


Because there are currently 59 known cases out of the 15 million people who live in Ontario, many people have chosen to continue working in their jobs, but should any of you wish to temporarily take time off just to be extra cautious please be rest assured you are totally welcome to do so and your decision will not be held against you in any way.


We are incredibly thankful for the amazing job that you all do! We are so lucky to have you as part of our team, and by supporting each other we will all get through this challenging time together.


Thank you so much,


Management”


All this message tells us, is this...please book time you require off two weeks in advance as usual and we won’t hold it against you.


And now I’m not 20000% sure on the timing here as I do check the schedule every day...but earlier that day or maybe the night before, the person who does our schedule, Hazel, went and posted the schedules of every employee under their name 2 weeks out, knowing that the situation was intensifying, I, if in her position and the owners position, would have held off on posting it a day or two to see how the situation developed giving my employees the chance to be smart and safe and book time off immediately following a message I knew was coming...but that was not the case. All of us working when we received hazels message went to see the schedule and all basically said “wtf” to ourselves as the schedule was posted 2 weeks out and we all proceeded to book time off.


Since then, the spa had been fairly dead for most girls working- we saw a spike in clients who were under 40 who didn’t give a shit about health and safety and thought this virus couldn’t touch them. They pushed boundaries even more, wanted extras for free and insisted on kissing.


Fast forward to the last few days, almost all girls are scared going into work and quite honestly those who aren’t, aren’t following this very closely and seeing the world impact. Most girls are trying to get rid of their shifts because we have been told if we don’t want to work, we must get rid of our shifts or face a $150/shift fine. No one wants to take shifts. No one wants to be there. Clients aren’t coming in. Yesterday a girl whom SIMCITY has mentioned was fired.
A little background here because I believe transparency to be key- she is a fiesty girl, passionate and protective of her family. She has family members that are extremely young and older members whom are immunocompromised. She has not gone to work in over an week missing (3 shifts at this part in her story) and has been posting all her shifts up for girls to take if they want to work. No one is biting. It’s now a pandemic- she messages Hazel and tells her she isn’t coming to her shift and that she won’t be finding a replacement because this is ridiculous and clearly they don’t care about our health or the health of our clients and that we shouldn’t be open let alone forced to pay our shift fees while following government recommendations about social distancing and isolation. They retort with what’s expected in a defensive tone and she is fired without being told she’s fired directly. They removed her from the group chat and took all her shifts down.
In fairness to the spa (yes, I would like to point this out and be fair), her responses to Hazel were short and abrupt, could have been viewed as insubordination even, but given the nature of our job and the fact that we know 2 weeks mandatory isolation is coming which means we won’t be working and we won’t know when we can go back to work or how long our money will last us, she was scared and disappointed that our employers really don’t care about us or our health. Just money. They expect us to kiss clients and be pressed together like a peanut butter and jam sandwich, breathing in each other’s space and exchanging fluids while a fucking pandemic is going on.


Now today, Ford has declared a state of emergency and the spa is still open. There has been no address from the owners or management team that the spa will be closed until further notice and that girls are to go home. There has been nothing done. Nothing! Do with that what you will but in a crisis like that I will not be returning to this spa when it’s said and done and no, I have not been fired. I will be going to the ministry of health, the labour board and a lawyer when this is over. Given the nature of our jobs, we should have been closed and if not closed, workers should have been given the choice whether or not they wished to come to work and if not, no fees should have been charged for this. I know I wouldn’t have been going back to owe 600 in fines to a business that didn’t give a shit about me or my health. We get treated like shit on the regular and we put up with it because premier is busy- we don’t sit around like other spa girls waiting hours to see a client. We see on average between 5-9 clients/8 hour shift. We make tips. We are busy. We put up with a lot because the alternative to make half of what we make and sit around bored. But now our perspectives have changed a bit...a lot of us would rather make less and be bored but work for a company that doesn’t treat us like shit and cares about our health. I highly suggest an influx of clients when we reopen our spas, but go to places that cared about the ladies you so enjoy spending time with! Or follow the ladies that leave Premier after this because there will be at least a few. Any premier ladies that read this, and decide to leave and would like your clients to follow you, I will be creating an account here and will make a post on this thread when I have done so with an email- please respond or email me and tell me who you are, I will make a post about where you have gone instead of premier to give your clients a chance to follow you. I think that it’s the least we as a community could do to have fair working conditions, be treated like humans and to not feel like sex slaves to a couple of people who don’t give a shit about anything but money in a time of crisis.


Thank you

I and many others would support her, if she comes here to promote herself.

 

[NatTurner]

I and many others would support her, if she comes here to promote herself.

Stand up for your rights!! Emancipation is a good thing. Your body not theirs!!

 

[dickinabox]

I and many others would support her, if she comes here to promote herself.

She responded in revealing who she is. She is Sienna

To anyone that is misinformed or confused by what has been said regarding premier. You can chose to believe what serves you purpose. But these are facts. Premier will defend their business as it is their livelihood. I however will defend my position. I will not discuss anything prior to the pandemic, it has already been made very clear for clients to understand the work atmosphere we deal with, what you choose to do with that information is on you. I will not be comfortable with myself letting these people walk all over me, and the amazing women I’ve worked with.

Like said before, they sent a message in the group chat regarding the pandemic and told us to book time off as it won’t be held against us, permitted we did not have shifts scheduled online. (This is regular protocol at premier, they did not give us any new information.) The two week schedule had been listed. So all the girls had shifts on the website for two weeks out. A girl asked will we be charged for fees? Hazel replied that as long as we email requests before the schedule was up, when it had already been posted online. Something doesn’t add up.

During present times we are all nervous, as a global community, we are staying inside and trying to kill this virus. The only thing we can do is social distance and isolate. Call it cautious or extreme but I chose to isolate, I have been inside for 6 days now. Coronaviruses are spread mainly from person to person through close contact. So there was no way I was going to risk it at the spa. Mostly I am afraid of how it may affect those close to me and anyone I come in contact with. And I wish everyone understood the severity, it may not be about you (I believe they finally are.) Around 1 in every 5 people who catch COVID-19 needs hospital treatment. What may be no symptoms for you, could be a death sentence for someone else. Please have love for humanity. It is hard but we all have to do our part. Losing a loved one is a lot harder than practicing social distancing. It doesn’t make sense that a job as an erotic massage parlour will charge girls $150 a shift, during a pandemic. The government shouldn’t have to tell businesses (especially one of this nature) to close at such a time. This is representative of how we are treated. I understand staying open as a business but to charge your employees who don’t feel comfortable to come to work under such circumstances is ludicrous.

I will note in premiers defence, and which had been stated previously, yes I maybe feisty at times. Especially when I feel backed into a wall, so I do apologize sometimes I lose my delivery. I was astonished, although it was foreseeable considering history. How can they not have compassion for girls, who clearly are scared there is an extremely contagious disease that is spreading across the world. Let alone the financial aspect of it, we are out of work too- there is no assistance for us. What we have is what we have, and we’ve worked hard for it! To have to go back into work after with a load of fees shows the business doesn’t care for its employees.

I am not here to slander premier, I am here to state facts and show the clients that this spa does not care about most of their girls. And most importantly, hopefully premier can have some compassion, for the women who work for them day in and day out. We are more than spa girls. We have lives outside of being MPAs. Our life does not revolve around the spa, but the spa around our lives. Although I will no longer be there, many women I respect and admire will be. I want better for them. Understand they are sharing their bodies with you, whatever mileage you get or don’t get just be grateful a beautiful woman is sharing herself with you. Just because you are at premier does not make you entitled to anything extra. It is a very intimidate and personal experience each session is unique.

Thank you for taking the time to read what I have to say, and thank you to anyone that understands. Thank you to each and every client that has spent time with me, some of you are gems too. Can’t make everyone happy, but you can have fun trying

Also thank you to premier for the time I spent there, an even bigger thank you for showing your true colours. I wish all the women there happy healthy lives, you women are heart beat of the spa.

Sienna

 

[cupcrazy]

I wish Sienna a best of luck in the future. Sadly, she may have burn the bridge in the spa industry with her outspoken opinion.

 

[therealcole]

True...there's no easy solution which is why governments are flip flopping every day.

But we're talking 2-4 weeks here, just to curb the spreading...I'm sure spa owners and most MPAs have enough savings to get by for a couple of weeks.

Are you saying you can't?

2-4 months not 2-4 weeks. As long as there are positive cases then everything will remain closed. @ weeks of no new cases and then things will start to change. Slowly.

 

[Kawailuvr]

18 months or 2 years they are saying now

 

[snoopdoggie]

She responded in revealing who she is. She is Sienna

To anyone that is misinformed or confused by what has been said regarding premier. You can chose to believe what serves you purpose. But these are facts. Premier will defend their business as it is their livelihood. I however will defend my position. I will not discuss anything prior to the pandemic, it has already been made very clear for clients to understand the work atmosphere we deal with, what you choose to do with that information is on you. I will not be comfortable with myself letting these people walk all over me, and the amazing women I’ve worked with.

Like said before, they sent a message in the group chat regarding the pandemic and told us to book time off as it won’t be held against us, permitted we did not have shifts scheduled online. (This is regular protocol at premier, they did not give us any new information.) The two week schedule had been listed. So all the girls had shifts on the website for two weeks out. A girl asked will we be charged for fees? Hazel replied that as long as we email requests before the schedule was up, when it had already been posted online. Something doesn’t add up.

During present times we are all nervous, as a global community, we are staying inside and trying to kill this virus. The only thing we can do is social distance and isolate. Call it cautious or extreme but I chose to isolate, I have been inside for 6 days now. Coronaviruses are spread mainly from person to person through close contact. So there was no way I was going to risk it at the spa. Mostly I am afraid of how it may affect those close to me and anyone I come in contact with. And I wish everyone understood the severity, it may not be about you (I believe they finally are.) Around 1 in every 5 people who catch COVID-19 needs hospital treatment. What may be no symptoms for you, could be a death sentence for someone else. Please have love for humanity. It is hard but we all have to do our part. Losing a loved one is a lot harder than practicing social distancing. It doesn’t make sense that a job as an erotic massage parlour will charge girls $150 a shift, during a pandemic. The government shouldn’t have to tell businesses (especially one of this nature) to close at such a time. This is representative of how we are treated. I understand staying open as a business but to charge your employees who don’t feel comfortable to come to work under such circumstances is ludicrous.

I will note in premiers defence, and which had been stated previously, yes I maybe feisty at times. Especially when I feel backed into a wall, so I do apologize sometimes I lose my delivery. I was astonished, although it was foreseeable considering history. How can they not have compassion for girls, who clearly are scared there is an extremely contagious disease that is spreading across the world. Let alone the financial aspect of it, we are out of work too- there is no assistance for us. What we have is what we have, and we’ve worked hard for it! To have to go back into work after with a load of fees shows the business doesn’t care for its employees.

I am not here to slander premier, I am here to state facts and show the clients that this spa does not care about most of their girls. And most importantly, hopefully premier can have some compassion, for the women who work for them day in and day out. We are more than spa girls. We have lives outside of being MPAs. Our life does not revolve around the spa, but the spa around our lives. Although I will no longer be there, many women I respect and admire will be. I want better for them. Understand they are sharing their bodies with you, whatever mileage you get or don’t get just be grateful a beautiful woman is sharing herself with you. Just because you are at premier does not make you entitled to anything extra. It is a very intimidate and personal experience each session is unique.

Thank you for taking the time to read what I have to say, and thank you to anyone that understands. Thank you to each and every client that has spent time with me, some of you are gems too. Can’t make everyone happy, but you can have fun trying

Also thank you to premier for the time I spent there, an even bigger thank you for showing your true colours. I wish all the women there happy healthy lives, you women are heart beat of the spa.

Sienna

This is a real eye opener. It's not fair the way the owners are treating their employees.

 

[Dotanuki]

Think the writing is on the wall

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[dirtyoldman]

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[jcA]

She responded in revealing who she is. She is Sienna

To anyone that is misinformed or confused by what has been said regarding premier. You can chose to believe what serves you purpose. But these are facts. Premier will defend their business as it is their livelihood. I however will defend my position. I will not discuss anything prior to the pandemic, it has already been made very clear for clients to understand the work atmosphere we deal with, what you choose to do with that information is on you. I will not be comfortable with myself letting these people walk all over me, and the amazing women I’ve worked with.

Like said before, they sent a message in the group chat regarding the pandemic and told us to book time off as it won’t be held against us, permitted we did not have shifts scheduled online. (This is regular protocol at premier, they did not give us any new information.) The two week schedule had been listed. So all the girls had shifts on the website for two weeks out. A girl asked will we be charged for fees? Hazel replied that as long as we email requests before the schedule was up, when it had already been posted online. Something doesn’t add up.

During present times we are all nervous, as a global community, we are staying inside and trying to kill this virus. The only thing we can do is social distance and isolate. Call it cautious or extreme but I chose to isolate, I have been inside for 6 days now. Coronaviruses are spread mainly from person to person through close contact. So there was no way I was going to risk it at the spa. Mostly I am afraid of how it may affect those close to me and anyone I come in contact with. And I wish everyone understood the severity, it may not be about you (I believe they finally are.) Around 1 in every 5 people who catch COVID-19 needs hospital treatment. What may be no symptoms for you, could be a death sentence for someone else. Please have love for humanity. It is hard but we all have to do our part. Losing a loved one is a lot harder than practicing social distancing. It doesn’t make sense that a job as an erotic massage parlour will charge girls $150 a shift, during a pandemic. The government shouldn’t have to tell businesses (especially one of this nature) to close at such a time. This is representative of how we are treated. I understand staying open as a business but to charge your employees who don’t feel comfortable to come to work under such circumstances is ludicrous.

I will note in premiers defence, and which had been stated previously, yes I maybe feisty at times. Especially when I feel backed into a wall, so I do apologize sometimes I lose my delivery. I was astonished, although it was foreseeable considering history. How can they not have compassion for girls, who clearly are scared there is an extremely contagious disease that is spreading across the world. Let alone the financial aspect of it, we are out of work too- there is no assistance for us. What we have is what we have, and we’ve worked hard for it! To have to go back into work after with a load of fees shows the business doesn’t care for its employees.

I am not here to slander premier, I am here to state facts and show the clients that this spa does not care about most of their girls. And most importantly, hopefully premier can have some compassion, for the women who work for them day in and day out. We are more than spa girls. We have lives outside of being MPAs. Our life does not revolve around the spa, but the spa around our lives. Although I will no longer be there, many women I respect and admire will be. I want better for them. Understand they are sharing their bodies with you, whatever mileage you get or don’t get just be grateful a beautiful woman is sharing herself with you. Just because you are at premier does not make you entitled to anything extra. It is a very intimidate and personal experience each session is unique.

Thank you for taking the time to read what I have to say, and thank you to anyone that understands. Thank you to each and every client that has spent time with me, some of you are gems too. Can’t make everyone happy, but you can have fun trying

Also thank you to premier for the time I spent there, an even bigger thank you for showing your true colours. I wish all the women there happy healthy lives, you women are heart beat of the spa.

Sienna

Can you send me the link to the terb post?

 

[jcA]

This is a real eye opener. It's not fair the way the owners are treating their employees.

Can you send the link to her post?

 

[Whitesnake1987]

VIRUS CAN FUCK UP YOUR ABILITY TO WALK. SPAS STILL WORTH IT BABY?

"Some patients may suffer long-lasting nerve damage that impacts their ability to walk"

"We have to come to grips that Covid might kill me, but it could also debilitate you over a significant period of time."

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/25/coronavirus-from-happy-hypoxia-to-purpuric-rashes-here-are-all-the-perilous-ways-covid-attacks-the-body.html

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COME QUICKLY BABY, CHANGE YOUR BORING ABILITY TO WALK PROPERLY.

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