BBFS at Semi Legits

[Sybarite]

Some guys will choose 45 mins as a compromise...sometimes I will choose this if I go to a new semi legit place (since I don't want to be stuck for 1hr in case the MPA doesn't know how to give a good massage).

I'm not too familiar with the different types of licenses but if we exclude RMT, then I suspect a holistic licence would cover a lot of ground...

Holistic Practitioner

Holistic Practitioners are individuals who work in a holistic centre providing a variety of services for therapeutic treatment. Please note: As per a recent Council decision, we are not accepting new licence applications from members associated with the following professional holistic...

www.toronto.ca

Thanks again KL. Would be interesting to see if the places you mentioned as semi legits have holistic licenses or not using the link that bbtpongs posted - that is a pretty handy website. If not what are semi-legits licensed as, and I wonder how the licenses differ?

 

[krayzee]

Did you actually click the link? Yes the entire website lists everything, but the link I posted lists body rubs only. They are not holistics.

Yes I did. There are only 25 Body rub licensed spas in Toronto. That link has 57 spas in there, even with some repeats and some closed or moved. I might be wrong but it still looks too many to me and way more than 25.

 

[bbtpongs]

A

Most of

Yes I did. There are only 25 Body rub licensed spas in Toronto. That link has 57 spas in there, even with some repeats and some closed or moved. I might be wrong but it still looks too many to me and way more than 25.

Except for the Butterfly association, it looks like just body rubs, past and present, to me. Which one is not?

 

[MrNovember]

Just because i dont respond to you doesnt mean i dont respond to others. I dont like the tone of ur request so my silence to you means you should fuck off.

Well I had experienced the same. I sent you PM but never received any response so wasn’t sure of what you shared here is credible. Anyway, good for you but this forum is all about sharing as you know “sharing is caring”.

 

[MrNovember]

I don't know that much about the license thing other than a handful of spas in the GTA have some kind of limited holistic license (I believe these are mostly the premier "holistic" places). But you're right, it's mostly the type of services offered that dictates whether it's semi or holistic. Semi places generally want to provide a decent massage with a bit of fun at the end but there is a lot of grey area within semis and some places are known to be a bit more "liberal" than others. In fact, the same MPA might only offer a basic HJ and some light touching at one semi spa but will do more at another (often, this is due to how strict the boss is). But at a minimum, you can expect at least a basic HE at a semi place (otherwise, it would be a legit clinic such as CBQ or any number of RMT clinics out there).

Like you said, because there is more focus on the "massage" part, many ladies > 40 can still do quite well at semis, and customers also benefit from not having to pay as much tips for basic extras too. Having said that, there are many younger ladies at semis because they don't want to do the higher mileage stuff at holistic places. I was just talking to a regular MPA of mine the other day and she was telling me that one of her friends keeps trying to convince her to go work at her holistic place because she would make much more money but she doesn't want to (because she doesn't want to "have to do" those higher level services for everyone).

Most holistic places will also give you some basic massage at the beginning as well but the quality won't be as good compared to the semi places and many guys will not even bother with the massage part at holistics. Also, keep in mind, everything I've been talking about is generalities here. You can certainly get BS, BJ and FS at semi legits but the difference is those aren't are a part of their standard services and the MPAs will often only do those with customers that they like (hence, the YMMV concept) and/or those that provide big tips. Contrast this with holistic places where anyone can walk in and get FS, since that is part of their standard services.

Also, many guys on here talk about getting extras at legit places. This is not as difficult as it seems. As XTC alluded to, there are many semi legit MPAs that also work at legit clinics. If you get to know one of these ladies really well at a semi place, chances are good that she will provide you a bit of fun at the other place too. It is more uncommon if we're talking actual RMTs, but that happens too.

Great explanation and helpful as always.

 

[MrNovember]

Everything is in a mess now with defining massage parlors because some girls at some Asian spas providing all kinds of services at all types of spas no matter what the brand is. It used to be Legit, Semi Legit, Holistic and Body Rub parlors. Now we have Legit, Semi legit, Semi Holistic, Holistic and Body Rub parlors.
Nowadays, no matter what kind of spas you go, you will always come across with some girls doing a lot more than other girls because some Legit spa girls also working at Semi legit spas and some semi legit girls also working at Holistic spas vice versa. One plus One have a few girls like that so we have decided to change the brand to semi holistic. There is a big shortage of girls at spas so most spa owners are taking in who ever is willing to work no matter what kind of spas they are from. I know of a few holistic spa girls holding RMT licenses and also know some semi legit girls attending RMT schools. Can they become a real legit girls? I doubted.

Thanks KJ. Need to get used to your new avatar .

 

[OG_funguy]

Well I had experienced the same. I sent you PM but never received any response so wasn’t sure of what you shared here is credible. Anyway, good for you but this forum is all about sharing as you know “sharing is caring”.

Me too, also reached out and never heard back...appears to be another case of much ado about nothing.

 

[hangul99]

Thanks again KL. Would be interesting to see if the places you mentioned as semi legits have holistic licenses or not using the link that bbtpongs posted - that is a pretty handy website. If not what are semi-legits licensed as, and I wonder how the licenses differ?

If the the spa is in Toronto and is not a licensed body rub then its holistic. Semi-legit is a made up clsssification. All girls working at a spa that is not a body rub are required to have a holistic license. Even those working at a legit place like Kelly spa.

Girls working at a body rub need a body rub license. The process for that is more involved.

 

[kittyhound69]

Anything north of Steeles is really illegal, they are only allowed to massage your feet .only rmt allowed to massage.

 

[OG_funguy]

Thanks again KL. Would be interesting to see if the places you mentioned as semi legits have holistic licenses or not using the link that bbtpongs posted - that is a pretty handy website. If not what are semi-legits licensed as, and I wonder how the licenses differ?

From a license perspective, semi-legits would be under holistic. For example, I saw Superior in the look-up and they are semi-legit. Like I was saying earlier, you would only know a place is semi-legit from experience or reading the reviews on here...there's no license category for "semi-legit".

 

[pman]

Going back to original title, my first post quarantine visit to one of semi-legits had ended by CFS with mamasan. It was unexpected and that's why it was good.
These surprises is one of the reasons I go to semi. I definitely enjoyed that MILF experience. Next time it dragged to BBFS.
Did I understand the risks? Definitely, but it's my assessment of safety and my decision.
I will probably use a cover if I see her next time.
Therefore, as it was mentioned here already, it might happen at any time, at any type of spa between two adults and we can just guess whether was it God's plan, stars or just YMMV occasion.

 

[OG_funguy]

Going back to original title, my first post quarantine visit to one of semi-legits had ended by CFS with mamasan. It was unexpected and that's why it was good.
These surprises is one of the reasons I go to semi. I definitely enjoyed that MILF experience. Next time it dragged to BBFS.
Did I understand the risks? Definitely, but it's my assessment of safety and my decision.
I will probably use a cover if I see her next time.
Therefore, as it was mentioned here already, it might happen at any time, at any type of spa between two adults and we can just guess whether was it God's plan, stars or just YMMV occasion.

Now you, I can believe. Shit, we've been known to visit the same spas...hope we're not seeing the same MPAs too (again)

Just curious, you said that first post quarantine visit resulted in unexpected CFS...so did she provide the condom?

 

[pman]

Now you, I can believe. Shit, we've been known to visit the same spas...hope we're not seeing the same MPAs too (again)

Just curious, you said that first post quarantine visit resulted in unexpected CFS...so did she provide the condom?

Yes, she ran out of room to bring it.

 

[OG_funguy]

Yes, she ran out of room to bring it.

Nice, yeah it's always the unexpected stuff that happens at semi-legits which make them interesting. For me, there's not much mystery going into a holistic place...

 

[Rookie0410]

Just because i dont respond to you doesnt mean i dont respond to others. I dont like the tone of ur request so my silence to you means you should fuck off.

Do you mind Pm me the location?

 

[Gulag107]

This selective bbfs has been going on for a long time and nothing is surprising if one just follows the money. With money more scarce than before, more risk tolerance is to be expected. Some older “librarians“ looking asian ladies in these places engage in bbfs and are come dumps regulars.

 

[SJRich1973]

Since the resumption I have observed and experienced MP's either from semi's or holistic's got a lot smarter. They knew men are coming in full blast after a long sudden break! Unfortunately, we're the weaker species when it comes to sex! It is why this profession has survived centuries after centuries.

The massage even become more mediocre and has turned into a prelude to none other than extras. It is because MP's knew men will be unable to resist. The notion of suddenly getting extras in semi-legit is enticing. What more if it is FS! Next thing you know you're spending more from what you budgeted! Damn...SP agencies will do way better in many aspects including hygiene.

To where we stand, nowhere you can get a decent massage instead extras being offered. Which one are you paying now? Damn! Wise up hobbyist!

To the original post: I hope you head home straight, take a bath, gargle mouthwash and change underwear. Otherwise, you will be a walking vagina! You know how the odour that comes out. There are nasty pussies out there especially when fluids dries on your skin. I am not even getting further to the rest of body parts! One more...Damn!

 

[pman]

Nice, yeah it's always the unexpected stuff that happens at semi-legits which make them interesting. For me, there's not much mystery going into a holistic place...

To her credit, on our second intercourse I found her pussy cleanly shaved. The gorgeous bush had gone.

 

[Sybarite]

Yes I did. There are only 25 Body rub licensed spas in Toronto. That link has 57 spas in there, even with some repeats and some closed or moved. I might be wrong but it still looks too many to me and way more than 25.

You are wrong and you're clearly just speculating because it looks like too many to you.

You said most are holistics - name the holistics. What number out of 57 would you classify as "most" of them?

Yes there are more than 25 listed but if you look closely there are lots of duplicate listings and lots of listings where Romeo has listed previous spas names for the same body rub license. That way you can see the history of the spa name changes and / or location changes.

 

[Sybarite]

If the the spa is in Toronto and is not a licensed body rub then its holistic. Semi-legit is a made up clsssification. All girls working at a spa that is not a body rub are required to have a holistic license. Even those working at a legit place like Kelly spa.

Girls working at a body rub need a body rub license. The process for that is more involved.

Very interesting.

So that means that holistics, semi-legits and even fully legit RMTs all have the exact same license and are thus all bound by the very same licensing requirements and rules, so the difference between legit, semi-legit and holistic is strictly the way each of these businesses chooses to market themselves and regulate their staff?

Meaning a fully legit place could become a holistic, or vice-versa... likewise a semi-legit could change up its website, hiring philosophy and staff and become holistic, etc.

So it's essentially the designation is effectively just the operational philosophy and the ownership can make it anything they choose, meaning new ownership can change a semi-legit into a legit, and so forth?

Presumably this would even lead to debates over whether a place is legit, semi-legit, or holistic in the first place, depending on conflicting interpretations of how much milage everyone is getting?