Massage and Dash

He was also non Caucasian. Which Can include a lot of people including myself. When it comes to people in general there are those of all ethnic diversity that will try to take what is not theirs to take. I understand why the massage providers and studios set boundaries. There will still be those that will try to impose their own will on women. Loogies aren't just green.
I was at a spa where at least half the clientele is brown or black. Others are Asian. Perhaps a third are white. One of the girls came running to me because a client had filmed her without his consent. We got him to delete the video. He was white. Should they ban all white guys now?
 
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I kinda did this once over 20 years ago. I went to a new place and saw someone I'd never seen before. As we got rolling, we came to a price agreement for a basic massage and HJ. There was no teasing and then when we started the HJ, she gave me three strokes and then told me I was taking too long and she said "times up" and left the room.

I left the massage fee on the table, no tip, and left.

I didn't truly "dine and dash" as I did at least cover the massage price.

As I was walking away, she screamed at me out the window (the place was on the second floor) and I just kept walking. She didn't follow.
 
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I had a massage a few years back where the lady had been one of my go to's for a few years. It had always been legit with me even though she was known to give he to others. Her massage was always good so I just decided to not seek anything else as it was not offered. The last time I saw her she gave me a fuck you attitude and a substandard massage. She didn't even seem to gaf . So I paid the 80.00 after at the counter and gave
Her 0 TIP FOR HER 0 EFFORT. the look on her face was pure rage but he never said a word. I never went back either and won't. In this case I could have just as easily paid the room fee up front. If I had paid ahead and tipped her like I had in the past and got thst performance I would have the one with that look on my face
 
Why don't they take payment first?

It's always purse first, ass last.
Are you kidding me? Have you seen all the guys bitching and whining and all the restaurant comparisons when this topic is discussed?!?!?!?!
I agree that payment should always be upfront but the fuckin bellyaching that goes on when this is discussed is beyond belief.
 
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That doesn't really narrow anything down.
Exactly. It is not like with guys respect women. Just look at this board and ow many cheaters there are and the rude posts and the names used to refer to the ladies and the discussions about their body parts. Hardly respectful. The few guys that are respectful are usually labelled as "white Knights".
 
Long thread describing facts of life.. there are plenty of jerks, crooks, malicious folks and there are also plenty of good people. The best business people including therapists know how to draw in the best clients and discourage the rest. When they donโ€™t.. they put up with more of the riff raff. The shops that see more of the crap are depending on more walk in business.. of all races. They donโ€™t have the repeat biz


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There are places I go , where everything is pre paid. I have no issues with paying up front, with the knowledge that any tips will be reflected in the service. They do not disappoint. I guess it is a 50/50 chance you would either take or not. I read a lot of reviews and do my homework before going to seek services. I have found that if you treat the ladies with respect and not like brood mares they warm up to you. Most of them will in my experience be softer in their approach. Respect goes a long way like OF said. Take a look at the fuktards that run their gobs on these threads . That tells you how they view women providing services that end up messy . That's why they are fuktards
 
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There are places I go were everything is pre paid. I have no issues with paying up front, with the knowledge that any tips will be reflected in the service. They do not disappoint. I guess it is a 50/50 chance you would either take or not. I read a lot of reviews and do my homework before going to seek services.
Same here, pay up front. Some guys seems think that if service is subpar, they can pay less at the end than the agreed upon amount. I see that as a "dine & dash" whether you pay less or nothing.
Anybody can rip off everybody once but if you want to earn a living, you need repeat business and you will not get repeat business if you are ripping people off with subpar service. So if I am not happy with service, I simply do not go back. I think the provider has a right to know why you will not go back so that they have a chance to correct their ways (assuming that it is not clear what they are doing wrong).
 
Same here, pay up front. Some guys seems think that if service is subpar, they can pay less at the end than the agreed upon amount. I see that as a "dine & dash" whether you pay less or nothing.
Anybody can rip off everybody once but if you want to earn a living, you need repeat business and you will not get repeat business if you are ripping people off with subpar service. So if I am not happy with service, I simply do not go back. I think the provider has a right to know why you will not go back so that they have a chance to correct their ways (assuming that it is not clear what they are doing wrong).
This is the best approach honestly. Be a gentleman before anything else. Both client and provider end up having a more relaxed session once the agreed amount is paid. If they enjoy your company and feel respected the session will have enthusiasm. If they do not feel respected, they will make sure youโ€™re not a repeat customer. After they know you, payment can always come after. It goes both ways.
 
This is an interesting topic. Glad i came across it. I pretty much do whatever makes the woman comfortable since it usually makes the entire session more relaxing. At my regular place I usually just pay at the end now since sometimes I extend the time if the woman doesnโ€™t have an appointment after. But the other day, I saw a new person who hasnโ€™t seen me before and I paid up front.

Interestingly, the woman who runs the place does screen customers even if that makes the business a bit slower. I had asked another woman there during our session and she says that the loss of earnings is ok since they feel safer because of it.
 
This is an interesting topic. Glad i came across it. I pretty much do whatever makes the woman comfortable since it usually makes the entire session more relaxing. At my regular place I usually just pay at the end now since sometimes I extend the time if the woman doesnโ€™t have an appointment after. But the other day, I saw a new person who hasnโ€™t seen me before and I paid up front.

Interestingly, the woman who runs the place does screen customers even if that makes the business a bit slower. I had asked another woman there during our session and she says that the loss of earnings is ok since they feel safer because of it.
Interesting,... on what basis do they pre-screen?
 
Interesting,... on what basis do they pre-screen?

Phone call for those making appointments and even then, inside the exterior door are cameras and a locked door. I guess people who come that they don't want as clients (e.g. women, kids ) are just told that all the attendants are busy and to come back later.
 
Pre-screening is usually done to assess hygiene and the thickness of your billfold.


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This is an interesting topic. Glad i came across it. I pretty much do whatever makes the woman comfortable since it usually makes the entire session more relaxing. At my regular place I usually just pay at the end now since sometimes I extend the time if the woman doesnโ€™t have an appointment after. But the other day, I saw a new person who hasnโ€™t seen me before and I paid up front.

Interestingly, the woman who runs the place does screen customers even if that makes the business a bit slower. I had asked another woman there during our session and she says that the loss of earnings is ok since they feel safer because of it.
What? Thatโ€™s bizarreโ€ฆ.treating people like they are humans, and respecting their boundaries? Dang, no way that will work out well for youโ€ฆ๐Ÿ˜œ

Iโ€™m not used to being asked to pay up front in semi-legit placesโ€ฆ.but if I am asked, I will. The odds of me enjoying myself go way down if sheโ€™s wondering if Iโ€™m going to try to stiff her, or sheโ€™s on edge because of conflict with me over whether or not I should have to pay up front.

Iโ€™m under no illusions over the mostly transactional nature of a visitโ€ฆ.but that doesnโ€™t mean that things canโ€™t be improved if each person in the room is willing to make things easier/simpler/less stressful for the other.
 
First time visiting a place, or first time with a particular gal, ya, I'm ok with fronting the cash before starting.
After the gal gets to know you, as a regular or just someone they recognize, then I'd hope the up front payment would be relaxed... but if it isn't... no harm, no fowl !
Hard to get fussed over this... just my $0..02 worth.
 
First time visiting a place, or first time with a particular gal, ya, I'm ok with fronting the cash before starting.
After the gal gets to know you, as a regular or just someone they recognize, then I'd hope the up front payment would be relaxed... but if it isn't... no harm, no fowl !
Hard to get fussed over this... just my $0..02 worth.
Iโ€™m gonna need that 2 cents upfront.
 
First time visiting a place, or first time with a particular gal, ya, I'm ok with fronting the cash before starting.
After the gal gets to know you, as a regular or just someone they recognize, then I'd hope the up front payment would be relaxed... but if it isn't... no harm, no fowl !
Hard to get fussed over this... just my $0..02 worth.
Crazy times....a few months ago while getting my haircut in the mall, some fellow received his cut and bolted out the door as soon as he got out of the chair. Instead of paying the hairstylist at the desk, he was making tracks out of the mall. Going forward, if you are not a repeat customer the business requires you to pay upfront.
About a week ago while line at 7/11, a guy got the employee to get him a hotdog from that mini grill that they have going in the 7/11's.
Once the guy was handed his hotdog...instead of paying at the till he just kept going for the door and jumped into his running van. Another customer ran out to get a pic of his getaway van. I laughed as my thought was that was stolen as well. Ha!
So it's everywhere, just not massage establishments. Kinda like watching the collapse of society in real time with all the shenanigans that go on daily.
 
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    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality w
  32. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Helen , Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  33. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Anika , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Michelle,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella, Taiwan girl DD Boobs Thai deep massage lily,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  34. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ - An exotic tall and slim Vietn
  35. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบOpen Sunday Wonder spa(9421Jane st unit127)โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800.very big boost Joey and Sunny working today,Joey is sexy girl ,she can provide very good massage with sensual touch, nice Sunny can provide deep tissue massage,she got a lot experience,come see them today,welcome to walk in๐ŸŒบ๐Ÿ‘™much try๐Ÿท๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  36. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด:[/color] Hot Busty BLONDE Girl today at Alice Spa: ELLA (12pm-9pm): is a small & curvy white young girl from Romania, super super busty EE Cups, blue eyes, blond hair, ok services, bbbJ cfs. Please call before booking her due to high demand. Alice Spa has DEBIT PAYMENT available now! Plenty of free parking. Front and back entrance. ALICE SPA, 4915 Steeles Ave. E,
  37. xodyhard:
    Anyone know tracy from forever spa,does anyone where she working aside in forever spa?
  38. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธYoYo๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธHellen Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  39. ASPA:
    ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL.[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is a slim and attractive
  40. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Jennifer & Mia. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and youโ€™ll be sure to come back for more. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves & very friendly attitude. She is able to bbbj
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธAmy & Suki. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills SUKI is a sexy lady, short with big boobs, medium massage & nice services. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด
  42. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธRebecca๐ŸŒธTiffanyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  43. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Jessica ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
  44. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 13 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, MALIYA, PREET, KIRAN, ANNA, NISHA, SALMA, SABHA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  45. Applover:
    This chat is something. So no one believes Markkk
  46. Applover:
    This chat is something
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, CARA & JOLIE. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5โ€™3โ€ & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly
  48. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Helen๐ŸฅฐBrand new very young university student from Hong Kong. Great massage skills with a wild flirtatious side willing to tease and please to bring you to satisfaction. Perky natural 34C breasts perfect for kissing and body slide
  49. hiyamickey:
    Reinella wellness will have 6 girls working, young petite Japanese girl Amanda, Queenie, Lucky, Jenny, Vanessa, Ella @6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist, & a cute little 33โ€ booty. Tiffany has incredible bbbj skills, tastes as sweet as honey