Michelle Seduction Spa

[Slimgalsfan]

Here's a better idea. Just completely avoid the following establishments:

Seductionspa/Elevate
HFH
Obsession
QQ spa
Vivid
Vaughan spa

I'd also add SRM, Blue Lagoon and A&R Massage Studio. Cash grab machines.

 

[theexposedtruth]

I consistently read only positive reviews of Saya, Sierra, and others but now I understand those may be shills as well. I am still believing in hidden gems there...
I made really one moron mistake which still keeps putting me down: I accepted the upsell at the very beginning before even seeing how she would behave and do the massage during the first at least 10 mins. So idiotic! First get to know a new MPA, how she is doing the standard massage and only then you may accept the upsell after 20 mins of massage to have fs for the remaining 10 mins. So when you are offered an upsell at the very beginning, there should be an immutable solid steadfast rule to always respond: "I would want a massage for the first 20 mins, I will decide on it closer to the end of the session". Ideally maybe always decline an upsell with the MPA you see for the first time and if all goes well with the standard massage, then you can book her later for the second time anyways.

Here are the red flags I see for a shit session:
1. No introduction or hug. Handshake is stupid imho, because we ain't making a business deal.
2. Ask for extras right off the bat and constantly during the massage
3. Try to upsell you with basic (ie. bodyslide, shower, massage, etc..)
4. Demands you to lay down for a massage and not ask what you prefer
5. Too many restrictions - no touching, does not get undressed, does not lay down on the bed with you

Here are the red flags during the session (or after you decline extras):
1. Light to no massage. No teasing either to get you in the mood
2. Waste the majority of session on massage and does not escalate for HJ (so 20 mins is too much time wasted)
3. Constantly watches the clock or stealth 5-10 mins of your session by setting alarm too early
4. Wants you to quickly finish
5. Bad hygiene and does not shower after session

 

[c1000]

Here's a better idea. Just completely avoid the following establishments:

Seductionspa/Elevate
HFH
Obsession
QQ spa
Vivid
Vaughan spa

I'd also add SRM, Blue Lagoon and A&R Massage Studio. Cash grab machines.

Add sensa to the list as well. $270 is a joke.

 

[OLIVIA'S BOSS]

Add sensa to the list as well. $270 is a joke.

How much is fs at Seduction? HFH, Obsession? Alot more than Sensa. But yeah I can see your point too.

 

[OLIVIA'S BOSS]

Here are the red flags I see for a shit session:
1. No introduction or hug. Handshake is stupid imho, because we ain't making a business deal.
2. Ask for extras right off the bat and constantly during the massage
3. Try to upsell you with basic (ie. bodyslide, shower, massage, etc..)
4. Demands you to lay down for a massage and not ask what you prefer
5. Too many restrictions - no touching, does not get undressed, does not lay down on the bed with you

Here are the red flags during the session (or after you decline extras):
1. Light to no massage. No teasing either to get you in the mood
2. Waste the majority of session on massage and does not escalate for HJ (so 20 mins is too much time wasted)
3. Constantly watches the clock or stealth 5-10 mins of your session by setting alarm too early
4. Wants you to quickly finish
5. Bad hygiene and does not shower after session

Sounds exactly like the playback of Seduction/Elevate MPAs

 

[c1000]

How much is fs at Seduction? HFH, Obsession? Alot more than Sensa. But yeah I can see your point too.

Never been to HFH.

At Seduction and Obsession it varies. The younger girls will charge more, but they are younger.

Look at Perla's and Sensa's line-up tonight. Now look at Elevate's Seduction AP's line-up tonight. The fuck are you talking about?

 

[OLIVIA'S BOSS]

Never been to HFH.

At Seduction and Obsession it varies. The younger girls will charge more, but they are younger.

Look at Perla's and Sensa's line-up tonight. Now look at Elevate's Seduction AP's line-up tonight. The fuck are you talking about?

No it doesn't vary and it's an outright lie on your part. I guess you haven't been reading Seduction reviews on here. Most Seduction girls go for top dollar for extras. Sure they are younger but they are strippers and completely useless in the room. So it doesn't matter. You're also forgetting the massive amount of photoshop used for Seduction pics...the girls often never look the same when meeting them in person.

But i agree there isnt much to choose from at Perla and sensa tonight. But I would still never go to Seduction/Elevate despite there being more girls available . Why would I subject myself to getting ripped off and a shit session at Seduction just because there's a lack of girls at Premier. I would just wait until my desired girl becomes available at Premier. Unlike most guys on here I'm patient.

 

[Sybarite]

Here are the red flags I see for a shit session:
1. No introduction or hug. Handshake is stupid imho, because we ain't making a business deal.
2. Ask for extras right off the bat and constantly during the massage
3. Try to upsell you with basic (ie. bodyslide, shower, massage, etc..)
4. Demands you to lay down for a massage and not ask what you prefer
5. Too many restrictions - no touching, does not get undressed, does not lay down on the bed with you

Here are the red flags during the session (or after you decline extras):
1. Light to no massage. No teasing either to get you in the mood
2. Waste the majority of session on massage and does not escalate for HJ (so 20 mins is too much time wasted)
3. Constantly watches the clock or stealth 5-10 mins of your session by setting alarm too early
4. Wants you to quickly finish
5. Bad hygiene and does not shower after session

Great post!

And some girls wonder why they're not busy.

 

[Punani_Lover]

Here's a better idea. Just completely avoid the following establishments:

Seductionspa/Elevate
HFH
Obsession
QQ spa
Vivid
Vaughan spa

Should I avoid Blondies Spa as well?

 

[OLIVIA'S BOSS]

Should I avoid Blondies Spa as well?

Tbh it's just my opinion but I think just about every place in the gta is shit. Even my favorite Premier has gone down hill by alot and I mean alot.

So I'm hobbying less and I'm more patient and selective with my bookings.
For example, no bbbj then no session. Also if there is even 1 bad review or if the girl is new, then forget it, no session.

 

[Sybarite]

Tbh it's just my opinion but I think just about every place in the gta is shit. Even my favorite Premier has gone down hill by alot and I mean alot.

So I'm hobbying less and I'm more patient and selective with my bookings.
For example, no bbbj then no session. Also if there is even 1 bad review or if the girl is new, then forget it, no session.

Ironic this would seemingly limit your direct experience to a very small pool of women, and yet you seem to have a personal opinion about every single woman in the business.

 

[OLIVIA'S BOSS]

Ironic this would seemingly limit your direct experience to a very small pool of women, and yet you seem to have a personal opinion about every single woman in the business.

It doesn't contradict anything and No, you're just a moron.

Name me one place that you consider to be good then. I'll wait.

 

[Slimgalsfan]

Ironic this would seemingly limit your direct experience to a very small pool of women, and yet you seem to have a personal opinion about every single woman in the business.

Everyone decides for oneself, this logic does make sense and I think I will be more or less following it from now on unless I will get so strong a desire to see someone new that I will knowingly decide to accept the risk. In that case I must realize I am gambling and burning my cash is just a natural part of the game. Sticking to a small pool of known MPAs may be more boring but on the flip side you will burn way less money. You have the peace of mind and know what you will get for your money. Everyone just needs to decide which approach is best for him in particular in a given situation.
Basically it's the same boredom-reward (or risk-reward) dilemma. You may stop going to MPs altogether but in that case you get maximum boredom with no monetary losses (i.e. you are rewarded with the money you saved which you can then spend on something else). Or you may see a small number of known MPAs in which case you somewhat decrease your boredom but also get less monetary reward as you start parting with your money. Or you may start gambling with hot unknown MPAs in which case your boredom may be minimized but you will start losing way more money which in the end will bring you that emotional damage which imo is not worth that gambling. So imo the 2nd strategy is the best.

 

[Sybarite]

It doesn't contradict anything and No, you're just a moron.

Name me one place that you consider to be good then. I'll wait.

It's a total contradiction: by your own admission you don't see girls with even one bad review, you don't see new girls and you don't see girls you don't offer BBBJ but still you're slagging pretty much almost every single girl in the biz as if you've had a session with them.

Clearly you haven't. That is a contradiction.

 

[Sybarite]

Everyone decides for oneself, this logic does make sense and I think I will be more or less following it from now on unless I will get so strong a desire to see someone new that I will knowingly decide to accept the risk. In that case I must realize I am gambling and burning my cash is just a natural part of the game. Sticking to a small pool of known MPAs may be more boring but on the flip side you will burn way less money. You have the peace of mind and know what you will get for your money. Everyone just needs to decide which approach is best for him in particular in a given situation.
Basically it's the same boredom-reward (or risk-reward) dilemma. You may stop going to MPs altogether but in that case you get maximum boredom with no monetary losses (i.e. you are rewarded with the money you saved which you can then spend on something else). Or you may see a small number of known MPAs in which case you somewhat decrease your boredom but also get less monetary reward as you start parting with your money. Or you may start gambling with hot unknown MPAs in which case your boredom may be minimized but you will start losing way more money which in the end will bring you that emotional damage which imo is not worth that gambling. So imo the 2nd strategy is the best.

I'm not casting doubt on the strategy at all. It makes total sense to stick to regulars you know and trust.

The point is that people like PornPrince / Darth Vader / whatever he's calling himself today who actually claim to be selective shouldn't be posting negative reviews on pretty much every single thread in the forum because he obviously hasn't had sessions with the overwhelming majority of women he is panning.

 

[OLIVIA'S BOSS]

It's a total contradiction: by your own admission you don't see girls with even one bad review, you don't see new girls and you don't see girls you don't offer BBBJ but still you're slagging pretty much almost every single girl in the biz as if you've had a session with them.

Clearly you haven't. That is a contradiction.

I'm still waiting. But I knew you couldn't

 

[Slimgalsfan]

The point is that people like PornPrince / Darth Vader / whatever he's calling himself today who actually claim to be selective shouldn't be posting negative reviews on pretty much every single thread in the forum because he obviously hasn't had sessions with the overwhelming majority of women he is panning.

His posts are about the spas as a whole and my experience has proved he's more right than not. Bad dishonest MPAs are in a way bigger number there than good MPAs (I would still maybe give 80% to 20% ratio based on my experience). So given this (as well as the sketchy nature of this industry as a whole), is not it correct to be cautious and consider every MPA in those spas bad by default unless she has proved otherwise?

 

[OLIVIA'S BOSS]

His posts are about the spas as a whole and my experience has proved he's more right than not. Bad dishonest MPAs are in a way bigger number there than good MPAs (I would still maybe give 80% to 20% ratio based on my experience). So given this (as well as the sketchy nature of this industry as a whole), is not it correct to be cautious and consider every MPA in those spas bad by default unless she has proved otherwise?

Thank you. Appreciate that someone understands me.

 

[Deleted member 101953]

His posts are about the spas as a whole and my experience has proved he's more right than not. Bad dishonest MPAs are in a way bigger number there than good MPAs (I would still maybe give 80% to 20% ratio based on my experience). So given this (as well as the sketchy nature of this industry as a whole), is not it correct to be cautious and consider every MPA in those spas bad by default unless she has proved otherwise?

If Darth_Vader is fed up with MPA's in general, surely he can easily sign up with a lousy site like TERB and review agency chicks instead of wasting his time preaching his hatred on here..It would be such a huge favor to many of us on this site imo..

 

[OLIVIA'S BOSS]

If Darth_Vader is fed up with MPA's in general, surely he can easily sign up with a lousy site like TERB and review agency chicks instead of wasting his time preaching his hatred on here..It would be such a huge favor to many of us on this site imo..

I'm not fed up with all MPAs, I never said that. I mean I still hobby. I just think the industry is not what it used to be largely in part due to the influx of strippers. I also can't stand to see guys deceived and ripped off on here with lies and misinformation.
Telling the truth and stating facts May not always be popular but it's necessary. I apologize if I have made your experience on this site less pleasant. Appreciate the feedback