Announcement PSA: Moonwaiting Caught by Police

[Frank Underwood]

Just an update

File started two years ago, when one of the Chinese mm reported due to mw intensive schedule.

She reported and quit, and didn't think any of it.

Basically tldr, it tipped over when a mw worker had an incident with mw, where she refused to work but mw constantly pressured her into work.

Many Korean mm will agree that this was a constant occurrence in mw. That's what LE are leading with.

The phones won't work anymore because all the keepers are lawyered up / arrested.

Clients are safe because they did delete most messages and kill the phone line before they had to turn over the items. But the one mm who complaint turned over chat convo etc to show that she was pressured to work.

That's all for the info.

If anyone who is wondering which mm was it, I can only say it was one of the poorly reviewed Chinese mm who charged 600+ per hour and didn't last long in mw.

Stay safe and hunting.

Few people ( including me ) were expecting it to be this serious but the mm and her friends apparently left a long report lol.

Bro no disrespect to you but your credibility as a reporter went to shit in this thread. You started with "I am close with x, y, z person and I was having dinner with them... relax it's just money laundering" to now saying the investigation was two years old and MW "deleted all records."

If I was you I wouldn't have come back into this thread. Sorry man but it's just so obvious that you are trying to downplay things with a bias for MW.

I don't think it's necessary to lie about records because as KJ said, records or not, not one john in the history of prostitution since C36 has gone to jail for buying sex. That whole law is just made to instill fear, the same way that our moms would tell us the boogyman was under the bed to get us to fall asleep.

 

[Frank Underwood]

34 firearms and ammunition seized sort of suggests that “Andy” is not exactly a stand up guy who was ratted out by a disgruntled employee. It also suggests that the possibility of fear as well as coercion with some of the girls. Unhappy employees leave and go elsewhere. Why didn’t they in this case? Possible reasons include debt to the agency mentioned earlier, but I would suggest there was a definite threat of violence. In any case, Andy fully deserves what happens to him, and there are many others who deserve to join him. Fuck ‘em all.

Bro, you keep on twisting the story to make it scarier. It was one firearm and 34 munitions. Not 34 guns! One gun makes it bad enough, that's a bad guy, now with 34 guns you are trying to paint Andy like he was part of the Taliban. He was not, he was a pimp with a gun, a bad guy with a gun.

 

[Frank Underwood]

You are on the right track. I'm not understating, more of I can't say everything because a lot of information is considered insider information.

Lets just see how it plays out.

The report given by the Chinese mm are scary so to say. There were ocassion of violent threat left via voice messages. I recall raising the concern to one of the keepers before but was brushed off.

Stay safe wolves!

If what you are saying is true then the Border Police would not be involved in this operation. To me, by reading that small report in the YRP site I can already get a lot of information of what happened. There was definitely movement of women across the Canadian border or the border police would not have been involved.

My theory is, when Andy couldn't get Korean girls here anymore he started looking for other sources and then must have "partnered up" with someone, I am theorizing someone from the states with access to Chinese girls without proper papers. I bet you that is why MW started having all these Chinese girls at $600+ per hour, that is probably why these girls are CHINESE ONLY, since they wouldn't want those pesky entitled white guys to come in and get involved in shit that is not their business.

One of these "smuggled" girls must have turned on them, probably in a manner similar to what you said.

There is no other explanation as to why the border police would be involved unless someone has crossed over the border and into Canadian soil. Right?

 

[Mr Gucci gucci]

Bro no disrespect to you but your credibility as a reporter went to shit in this thread. You started with "I am close with x, y, z person and I was having dinner with them... relax it's just money laundering" to now saying the investigation was two years old and MW "deleted all records."

If I was you I wouldn't have come back into this thread. Sorry man but it's just so obvious that you are trying to downplay things with a bias for MW.

I don't think it's necessary to lie about records because as KJ said, records or not, not one john in the history of prostitution since C36 has gone to jail for buying sex. That whole law is just made to instill fear, the same way that our moms would tell us the boogyman was under the bed to get us to fall asleep.

Not really an issue for me. I was just relaying what was said when we met that's all.

Credibility or not, just sharing stuff. I was as shocked as most cause one day they just told me to delete their numbers and wechat... That's when I knew the situation was downplayed by them at the beginning.

 

[Frank Underwood]

Not really an issue for me. I was just relaying what was said when we met that's all.

Credibility or not, just sharing stuff. I was as shocked as most cause one day they just told me to delete their numbers and wechat... That's when I knew the situation was downplayed by them at the beginning.

Bro you said they were still operating secretly but with a "secret" phone number. That claim was made after the raid was conducted. It doesn't make sense.

 

[MalikFarush]

I don't think it's necessary to lie about records because as KJ said, records or not, not one john in the history of prostitution since C36 has gone to jail for buying sex. That whole law is just made to instill fear, the same way that our moms would tell us the boogyman was under the bed to get us to fall asleep.

Frank, please stop spreading untruths. Check any police force’s annual report, including YR, and you’ll find “commodification of sexual activity” under the heading of crimes against persons. Numerous arrests are made every year, and the minimum sentences can no longer include a discharge. A fine is specified, and/or jail time, depending on the way the Crown proceeds in the prosecution. As well, all that is required for proof of the offence is date/time/communication/jurisdiction. A change of heart after the communication is not a defence. All that is required is that at the time of the communication, intent can be shown. That’s it. Draw your own conclusions about any client communications that are now in the hands of YRPD. Will they go after individual clients? Not likely because it isn’t worth the resources invested. Can they? Sure, they can.

 

[MalikFarush]

Bro, you keep on twisting the story to make it scarier. It was one firearm and 34 munitions. Not 34 guns! One gun makes it bad enough, that's a bad guy, now with 34 guns you are trying to paint Andy like he was part of the Taliban. He was not, he was a pimp with a gun, a bad guy with a gun.

He’s a piece of shit pimp and human trafficker with a gun. Fuck him and everyone associated with him. They deserve everything they get and then some. Every single one of the money laundering pimp/traffickers deserves what Andy got. He’s not the only one.

 

[Mr Gucci gucci]

Bro you said they were still operating secretly but with a "secret" phone number. That claim was made after the raid was conducted. It doesn't make sense.

They were... It was under 416 lol. Most older wolves know when mw went into trouble ( if I recall few years back), they just switch to 416 match.

It's fine tho no harm done. Hope everyone hobby safe.

The sucky thing is.. Now them bang average mm that mw use will be going into bh etc lol

 

[Knock Off Impact GTOH]

Used to use them MW once in a while from 2011 to 2018. Glad the itch hasn't been that great to use them since. They have been operating at least 10 years.

 

[marleymars]

Wowza.. I guess I was delusional thinking that MW was a safe option for these working girls.

 

[bluejay89]

It is 34 firearms!!!
7 victims so far
The one I chat is not one them apparently she is fine and ready to move on.

HUMAN TRAFFICKING INVESTIGATION- PROJECT EONNI- 6 people have been charged, more than 4 million dollars was seized, approximately $3 million in illegal cannabis seized & 34 firearms w/ ammunition. 7 victims rescued and receiving help CHARGES LAID AND VICTIMS RESCUED IN HUMAN TRAFFICKING INVESTIGATION https://t.co/QAwY3Kb43k

 

[MalikFarush]

Anyone know Karina's number? She was my favourite

You gotta be fucking kidding. You joined 13 minutes ago and you think someone is going to betray a girl’s confidence? Idiot

 

[aznlover]

He’s a piece of shit pimp and human trafficker with a gun.

The guns and drugs are not cool, but human trafficking just means he faciitated the movement of the girls into and out of Canada - it does not necessarily mean he held any against their wills.

Used to use them MW once in a while from 2011 to 2018. Glad the itch hasn't been that great to use them since. They have been operating at least 10 years.

More like 15 years - 2004 - 2005, perhaps even earlier.

 

[Mr Gucci gucci]

The guns and drugs are not cool, but human trafficking just means he faciitated the movement of the girls into and out of Canada - it does not necessarily mean he held any against their wills.



More like 15 years - 2004 - 2005, perhaps even earlier.

you are correct on this. it started from another dude, andy was a gate keeper then...

fuck, thank you for reminding me that im in my 40s LOL.

 

[big.sleeze]

Y’all niggas need to get a life srsly. Noone gives a fuck what you know, who you know, or which girls you have dinner with. Those chinks were dumb enough to get caught for whatever illegal shit they were doing. MW is gone, deal with it. They’ve been trash for a long time anyways with nothing but washed up middle aged grannies

 

[Chubbypickle]

No offence to anyone in their advanced years, but the old Asian dudes on this forum are hilarious. Constant bickering with each other online about who is more obsessed and in love with hookers and how much money you spend on them, how much tax you pay, how you don’t pay attention to trolls yet follow up with six paragraphs arguing with said troll.

Please keep this gold coming. forget about the Metaverse you all are trapped in the hookerverse.

 

[Frank Underwood]

He’s a piece of shit pimp and human trafficker with a gun. Fuck him and everyone associated with him. They deserve everything they get and then some. Every single one of the money laundering pimp/traffickers deserves what Andy got. He’s not the only one.

Firstly let me apologize to you because I misquoted the article on the YRP site, you were right there was 34 guns with ammunition. So my apologies for that.

Regarding your other comment about arrests, that is welcome information but are the names being posted of the people who are arrested? Has anyone suffered public shaming? The public shaming is exclusive to pedophiles.

The police will not come after Johns. By the way, since you are good at finding records and articles. Look at TOE88 and Zenful when they were busted, any clients arrested? No.

 

[Frank Underwood]

The guns and drugs are not cool, but human trafficking just means he faciitated the movement of the girls into and out of Canada - it does not necessarily mean he held any against their wills.



More like 15 years - 2004 - 2005, perhaps even earlier.

Brother, I am not a hypocrite so I will not try to deny that I have used Moonwaiting and they were pretty high on my list of choices for my hobby entertainment. They have been around since 2010-2011.


I read your article here and I feel that you are taking too much of an apologist stance, trying to downplay the situation. Andy, I am sure is not a bad guy all of the time, but this time he clearly messed up.

This is the OFFICIAL definition of human trafficking used to press charges on him. Not to be mistaken for HUMAN SMUGGLING.

Human Trafficking - York Regional Police
Human trafficking is the exploitation, manipulation or control of a person (usually a female) by violence or threats of violence to provide a sexual service or forced labour. Human trafficking is not the same as human smuggling.

www.yrp.ca
The media did not exaggerate anything. Andy is currently facing at least 7 charges of trafficking. This is as per the official media release by York Region Police.

CHARGES LAID AND VICTIMS RESCUED IN HUMAN TRAFFICKING INVESTIGATION
CHARGES LAID AND VICTIMS RESCUED IN HUMAN TRAFFICKING INVESTIGATION

www.yrp.ca
Police are not trying to liberally apply charges my friend. Think about this as a business. Police are in the business of catching and putting criminals in jail.
They spent millions in this operation which lasted for one year, they raided 20 locations simultaneously (at the same time!) which must have taken them at least 100 officers from multiple police agencies to execute.

Operation "big sister" was a big deal, it involved guns and illegal drugs. I know that maybe you want to sustain it in your mind that Andy was a good guy because you were a customer there; however, we have to come to grips with reality. Andy is only human, and he messed up.

The police would not be wasting so much time and money unless they thought they can gain a conviction. They don't need to exaggerate, you just need to accept and assimilate.

My unofficial theory is this: once the borders closed due to COVID, Andy felt pressured to find new talent, he must have partnered up with someone to bring new talent with INTO Canada (the border services are involved and they would only be involved if someone is literally crossing a border). I have a feeling this is why MW had a surge of really expensive Chinese girls seeing only Chinese clients. If he had stuck to his business model of only working with Korean girls with visas then he would not be in this situation. Also why the hell do you think he was stashing THIRTY FOUR guns?

The man is no saint, he is just a man. His greed and hubris got the best of him.

 

[MalikFarush]

CBSA is involved whenever someone’s legal status in Canada is in question, either through an expired visa, tourist, student, working on a tourist visa, etc., or through fraudulent representation to enter the country in the first place. Andy is a criminal, and has been for a long time. He didn’t just make a bad business decision, he’s a fucking lowlife piece of shit, just like all the others who run similar businesses.

 

[Axtif]

A bunch of virtue signalling hypocrites on here. If moonwaiting was still around, you would all be using it.

Especially those that saw Karina as their wife.

what a bunch of horse Shit liars lol